Ford 3000 hydraulic pump convert to 3600

[Ford3000Ky]

Ive seen and heard many people say that the 3600 pumps flow more than the 3000 pumps. Ive got a front end loader on my 74 Ford 3000 and its just so gosh darn slow. Ive heard people say they’ve converted their 3000 from the piston pump to the gear pump like on the 3600. Just curious to see if anyone here has successfully done it and would be willing to give details on how they did it. Thanks

-Dylan

 

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Pump is a bolt on, but the pipes are different so you will need 3600 piping or modify the ones you have

 

[TheOldHokie]

Ive seen and heard many people say that the 3600 pumps flow more than the 3000 pumps. Ive got a front end loader on my 74 Ford 3000 and its just so gosh darn slow. Ive heard people say they’ve converted their 3000 from the piston pump to the gear pump like on the 3600. Just curious to see if anyone here has successfully done it and would be willing to give details on how they did it. Thanks

-Dylan

Here is a custom 3000 conversion I did three years ago for an old Ford dealership. It uses the piston pump gear housing and an inexpensive ($125) off the shelf gear pump. Its a direct bolt on replacement except for the lines. The dealership that commisoned the job replaced the OEM lines with some short hoses. I have been making these for the NAA and Hundred series for qabout 10 years and they work really well.

Dan

 

[sotxbill]

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[Sean in PA]

Here is a custom 3000 conversion I did three years ago for an old Ford dealership. It uses the piston pump gear housing and an inexpensive ($125) off the shelf gear pump. Its a direct bolt on replacement except for the lines. The dealership that commisoned the job replaced the OEM lines with some short hoses. I have been making these for the NAA and Hundred series for qabout 10 years and they work really well.

Dan

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How much flow does that after market pump have?

 

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[TheOldHokie]

How much flow does that after market pump have?

.82 CID is the max displacement in that format. At 2000 shaft RPM thst works out to 6.6 GPM

 

[Sean in PA]

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That I at the beginning shouldn't be there in the link. Try this:

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[Sean in PA]

.82 CID is the max displacement in that format. At 2000 shaft RPM thst works out to 6.6 GPM

What engine rpm is needed to get the pump shaft to spin at 2000 rpm?

 

[TheOldHokie]

What engine rpm is needed to get the pump shaft to spin at 2000 rpm?

Depends on the drive ratio of the OEM camshaft gears. On the NAA, Hundred, and early Thousand series using the NCA600F pump gearing its 2400 engine RPM.

I only did the one and dont recall the final ratio of the gearing in the C5NN600A design.The pump housing itself is a roughlly 2:1 step up so ~2000 seems likely.

Concentric makes a 1.1 CID pump in that format if you wanted to spend a bit more money and push output higher. At that point you need to start thinking about the downstream plumbing.....

Dan

 

[Ford3000Ky]

Been at work all day buy thank you guys for the input. Im sure i can figure something out.

 

[Ford3000Ky]

Here is a custom 3000 conversion I did three years ago for an old Ford dealership. It uses the piston pump gear housing and an inexpensive ($125) off the shelf gear pump. Its a direct bolt on replacement except for the lines. The dealership that commisoned the job replaced the OEM lines with some short hoses. I have been making these for the NAA and Hundred series for qabout 10 years and they work really well.

Dan

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Do you possibly have a link to where i can find that gear pump online?

 

[TheOldHokie]

Do you possibly have a link to where i can find that gear pump online?

Yes but what do you intend to do with it? The conversion requires an adapter plate and custom made replacement for the OEM wobble shaft.

Dan

 

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That I at the beginning shouldn't be there in the link. Try this:

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That worked, thanks

 

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Here is a custom 3000 conversion I did three years ago for an old Ford dealership. It uses the piston pump gear housing and an inexpensive ($125) off the shelf gear pump. Its a direct bolt on replacement except for the lines. The dealership that commisoned the job replaced the OEM lines with some short hoses. I have been making these for the NAA and Hundred series for qabout 10 years and they work really well.

Dan

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I can see that conversation being done on a 53-64 model Ford, but on a 3000 why reinvent the wheel when there’s one that bolts on

 

[TheOldHokie]

I can see that conversation being done on a 53-64 model Ford, but on a 3000 why reinvent the wheel when there’s one that bolts onView attachment 1501

I was told it was to save a long time customer $1000 or so. Its an inexpensive conversion.

It wasnt my idea at the time and I never persued the matter beyond supplying the dealership with the conversion. Apparently they were not aware of the 3600 option and I certainly wasnt.

Dan