Other make hubs/rims for Massey Harris 22

[CharlesTx]

My Massey Harris 22 has 11.2 x 34 inch rear tires. They are cracked and coming apart. Since 11.2 x 34 are almost non existent and very expensive. I am trying to find a different solution. Could be different brand hub/rim that would allow 36 inch like my super c farmall or a hub/rim swap from another model Massey Harris. I hope someone has faced this before and can offer some guidance. This is not a show tractor I am just trying to keep it going without spending more on tires than the tractor is worth.

 

[DanielW]

You might get lucky finding some with the right centres. What's your bolt spacing and centre hole diameter? I know the slightly later Masseys had the same pattern as many Allis's (6" centre hole, 8 bolt on 8" bolt circle). Not sure if that goes back as far as the 22 though.

I no longer worry about trying to find the bolt pattern and centre hole size I need, because I never can. I can either find a set of used tires and rims the size I want in excellent condition with the wrong bolt pattern, or the right bolt pattern with pooched tires and rusted-out rims.

Instead, I'll find a set of wheels/rims the tire size I want regardless of bolt pattern. I then get discs torched on the plasma table at a local fab shop with the bolt pattern and centre hole I want, and out of steel the same thickness as the rim centres. It costs a little less $200 for them to make them each time I've had them made. Then I carefully cut out the old centres, grind a good bevel on the new adapter plates for a nice weld prep, and weld the new centres in. If you're a good welder, it'll look (almost) factory. If I spent a little more time gtrinding and finishing I could probably get them to look even better. Doing it this way means I can pretty much get whatever size tires/rims I want.

See this thread (link below) for a picture of some I made for an Allis. The tires/rims cost me $200, plus another $200 for the adapter plates and some time doing the conversion. Still a pretty good deal in my opinion, and I'm not stuck searching the country for the right bolt pattern.

Wheel swapping

Are the wheel centers the same size on a D17 and a 180? What combines share this size of hub the Gleaner E, K(?) and the IH 303? Looking to get a spare on hand for hay season.

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[stevieb49829]

You might get lucky finding some with the right centres. What's your bolt spacing and centre hole diameter? I know the slightly later Masseys had the same pattern as many Allis's (6" centre hole, 8 bolt on 8" bolt circle). Not sure if that goes back as far as the 22 though.

I no longer worry about trying to find the bolt pattern and centre hole size I need, because I never can. I can either find a set of used tires and rims the size I want in excellent condition with the wrong bolt pattern, or the right bolt pattern with pooched tires and rusted-out rims.

Instead, I'll find a set of wheels/rims the tire size I want regardless of bolt pattern. I then get discs torched on the plasma table at a local fab shop with the bolt pattern and centre hole I want, and out of steel the same thickness as the rim centres. It costs a little less $200 for them to make them each time I've had them made. Then I carefully cut out the old centres, grind a good bevel on the new adapter plates for a nice weld prep, and weld the new centres in. If you're a good welder, it'll look (almost) factory. If I spent a little more time gtrinding and finishing I could probably get them to look even better. Doing it this way means I can pretty much get whatever size tires/rims I want.

See this thread (link below) for a picture of some I made for an Allis. The tires/rims cost me $200, plus another $200 for the adapter plates and some time doing the conversion. Still a pretty good deal in my opinion, and I'm not stuck searching the country for the right bolt pattern.

Wheel swapping

Are the wheel centers the same size on a D17 and a 180? What combines share this size of hub the Gleaner E, K(?) and the IH 303? Looking to get a spare on hand for hay season.

forums.yesterdaystractors.com

You mean building them like this?:

Allis power adjust to fit my 101 Jr. Massey. (before the weldup). Bandsaw and jigsaw work. steve

 

[ET]

32" rims off an 81 would probably work. I don't know how easy 32" tires are to find.

 

[DanielW]

You mean building them like this?:View attachment 2364

Allis power adjust to fit my 101 Jr. Massey. (before the weldup). Bandsaw and jigsaw work. steve

Exactly. Nice job!

 

[Nebraska Cowboy]

Switching to 32 inch requires also changing the hubs. 11.2 X 34 are 9 bolt hubs if original Massey hubs, and 9 X 32 original wheels are 7 bolts hubs.