Which combine would be good for me a pt allis chalmers or a sp massey harris combine

[masseyharriskid]

Hey I was wondering what would be better for me a pull behind allis chalmers combine or a massey harris combine. Im looking to do oats and soy beans this year, I am a massey guy so I would rather have the massey combine but im concerned about price getting it from Wisconsin to Michigan.
And I know there probably not as efficient as a newer model but I cant afford those. I am open to other old combines in Michigan near Lansing ish 1,500 or less but im only 16 so im just trying to get something worth the money not great condition just good enough to get buy looking to upgrade next year also if I get a pt type of combine ill be pulling it with a massey 33 of 44sp so nothing special I was just giving reference as I've seen some pretty big pull type combines on YouTube so I can't pull nothing to big. My boss also he said he didn't know how they would fair with soy beans would either be good with soy beans.

 

[masseyharriskid]

Hire someone to do the combining! It’s worth the cost. And it will get done right, no matter what the conditions.

Im not looking for money i dont think im gonna make any I just want to get some experience for future and I'd like to say I did it myself

 

[TerryfromSWIowa]

I think finding someone to custom harvest 15 acres would be hard to do unless it was a neighbor. Find a combine in your price range and try to grow your acres. That is how alot of these guys got started. Not everyone gets born into a large operation.

 

[NY 986]

Im not looking for money i dont think im gonna make any I just want to get some experience for future and I'd like to say I did it myself

Nothing wrong with that and with a combine should you not want to farm another year you should get your investment back out of it when you sell it.

 

[sleepy1]

A JD 4400 or 6600 can be picked up reasonably and parts a readily available.

 

[rrlund]

For crying out loud boys, he wants to do what he wants to do, with the brand that he collects. Stop pushing him in a totally different direction. I won't get in to too much detail, but I know somebody who believed the lies that his mother told him about an ancestor who she didn't know, and made him believe it was in his blood to be a farmer. He's been spoiled rotten since he took his first breath. He started out playing with old stuff that even then he couldn't afford. Every time something let him down in the field and he "had" to get things done, he'd go buy something bigger and newer. After about five or six years, I thought a dealer was there repossessing things, but no, he had traded nearly new stuff for BRAND new stuff. The boy doesn't even own any land, but his mother tells him he's a good farmer, so he's happy being deep in debt so he can show off and make mommy happy.

It happens all the time on here. Some young fella wants to play around a little with some old stuff and get his feet wet, you guys say to encourage them, then you try to tell them to get in to a whole different farming enterprise or buy some big contraption that isn't the brand they want, or spent ten times their budget. (Sigh.)

 

[ss55]

Im not looking for money i dont think im gonna make any I just want to get some experience for future and I'd like to say I did it myself

If you want to really learn about farming I will suggest you get a part time job on another local farm to get some experience with how other farms operate. Even Henry Ford had his son Hank the Deuce work for an outside company before taking a management position in the family company. Will you get rich, no, but you will get paid something for your labor. You might also get some really miserable tasks, but it should be some valuable experience beyond what you can get at home. You can learn a lot from other people's success and mistakes.

I am aware that you are still in high school. It is very important to realize early that the most critical part of ANY AND ALL businesses is marketing your product, i.e. getting paid for your efforts. Hard work alone or equipment with shiny paint do not generate any income or profits, getting your produce sold is what does.

If you are more interested in farm machinery operation and repair rather than in farm management, then go with equipment that you can easily afford to buy and can resell or dispose of at minimal loss. Many great mechanics started out disassembling and reassembling cheap or free lawn mower engines before they eventually moved up to more expensive machines.

Good luck.

 

[MeanGene1]

Might want to check your Ford history- the Deuce was Henry's grandson, not his son. Edsel Ford was not treated very kindly

 

[EFV]

For crying out loud boys, he wants to do what he wants to do, with the brand that he collects. Stop pushing him in a totally different direction.

It happens all the time on here. Some young fella wants to play around a little with some old stuff and get his feet wet, you guys say to encourage them, then you try to tell them to get in to a whole different farming enterprise or buy some big contraption that isn't the brand they want, or spent ten times their budget. (Sigh.)

100% true. First post didn't mention he just wants to do it for experience. FWIW, if you stand downwind of a wood chipper
that a buddy is tossing fiberglass insulation in you'll have a good idea of what combining oats with an open platform combine
or pull behind machine feels like. Jus' sayin'.

 

[maqbill]

thats operator error . john deere are know for throw over. never had one or operated one. have heard that all my life. any combine will throw over if not set correctly, plus speed is a factor. this was actually field that the farmers did have john deere combines.

A mouse would starve on what the neighbors john deere 95 would throw over, sounds like operator error.

 

[NY 986]

100% true. First post didn't mention he just wants to do it for experience. FWIW, if you stand downwind of a wood chipper
that a buddy is tossing fiberglass insulation in you'll have a good idea of what combining oats with an open platform combine
or pull behind machine feels like. Jus' sayin'.

Worse in a combine cab that has no AC to start with. The cab door is left open so the dust drifts in. Did that with dad's Gleaner L plus when the oats got tough in the evening there was the job to unplug the feeder throat. I was always thankful if cutting oats took me down by the one creek so I could splash some water on my arms and face.

 

[MeanGene1]

Spent many an hour walking behind the 93 checking for throwover- that thing would pick it pretty clean if adjusted right. Pretty good machine for its day

One can always tell a grader that was a govt rig from snow country- cab with heat and no air

 

[NY 986]

Auction result for the Drumm sale in Prattsburgh, NY is 950 dollars for the AC 66 combine plus 5 percent internet fee making it just under 1,000 dollars before trucking.. Was this what people were thinking for price?

 

[NY 986]

Auction result for the Drumm sale in Prattsburgh, NY is 950 dollars for the AC 66 combine plus 5 percent internet fee making it just under 1,000 dollars before trucking.. Was this what people were thinking for price?

 

[MeanGene1]

Auction result for the Drumm sale in Prattsburgh, NY is 950 dollars for the AC 66 combine plus 5 percent internet fee making it just under 1,000 dollars before trucking.. Was this what people were thinking for price?

I don't suppose Graves & Cleland is still around in Prattsburg? Cal Graves did sales for gramps' limespreading business, good guy. Gramps bought an Arctic Cat from him for grams, and I bought my '69 Rupp Roadster from him

 

[NY 986]

I don't suppose Graves & Cleland is still around in Prattsburg? Cal Graves did sales for gramps' limespreading business, good guy. Gramps bought an Arctic Cat from him for grams, and I bought my '69 Rupp Roadster from him

Not to my knowledge. Screwed myself out of a lawn roller from that sale. They usually bring top dollar meaning near new price but this one this morning only brought 175 dollars. Had too much to do earlier this morning so I did not watch the sale unfold in real time. Maybe it had an issue that could not be seen by the picture. Figures since I had thought about going to be there in person but decided not to. The one IH 510 grain drill tempted me as a project. Something I imagined dad buying around 1970 when browsing the IH buyer's guide then.

 

[DanielW]

Auction result for the Drumm sale in Prattsburgh, NY is 950 dollars for the AC 66 combine plus 5 percent internet fee making it just under 1,000 dollars before trucking.. Was this what people were thinking for price?

Although I'm not entirely surprised that one could bring that much if the right Allis guys were at the auction, it sounds rather high to me. My #90 cost $600 a few years ago in decent condition. The two 66's we have cost $500 for the pair, but that was admittedly 20 years ago. But still kind of applicable, as value of them hasn't really increased. And those are CAD (not USD).

If I wanted a PT combine I'd be happy to pay $1000 for an IH, OIiver, or Deere in good shape. But I probably wouldn't pay that much for a 66. Not only because I don't really like the All-Crops, but also because they're common enough that, if you waited a little bit, you're bound to find a 72 or 90 for a similar price, which would be a much more desirable combine.

 

[NY 986]

Although I'm not entirely surprised that one could bring that much if the right Allis guys were at the auction, it sounds rather high to me. My #90 cost $600 a few years ago in decent condition. The two 66's we have cost $500 for the pair, but that was admittedly 20 years ago. But still kind of applicable, as value of them hasn't really increased. And those are CAD (not USD).

If I wanted a PT combine I'd be happy to pay $1000 for an IH, OIiver, or Deere in good shape. But I probably wouldn't pay that much for a 66. Not only because I don't really like the All-Crops, but also because they're common enough that, if you waited a little bit, you're bound to find a 72 or 90 for a similar price, which would be a much more desirable combine.

People tell me including some on forums such as this one that an auction is a fair way to determine a price. Everything is up from where it was 5, 10, or 20 years ago. A parts Farmall M unless extremely bad is close to 1,000 dollars these days versus 4-500 dollars even 10 years ago. I watched a very poor M with very low parts potential sell a few years ago for 475 dollars. Getting back to pull type combines a potential buyer is limited to what is actually on the market at a given moment. We can all say an Oliver or IH or JD pull type combine but there needs to be one on the market and if there is one 1200 miles away that adds immensely to the acquisition cost. The nicest pull type combine can be waiting in somebody's barn to be bought but if the owner is adamant about holding it until they die which could be decades into the future then what good is it to somebody wanting one by summertime. The selling price of the one this past Saturday only reinforces my opinion on buying a JD 3300 combine. Might be more combine than the OP needs to get started but the price is not into orbit and parts availability is not a great worry. I know others have different ideas and so be it.