Sleeves on an Allis C

[atlarge54]

I just bought an Allis C for $250, the engine was partially disassembled. I'm contemplating a complete rebuild. The engine looked like it got water down the exhaust and might have been locked up. There is scoring in some of the cylinders and the guy who took it apart did manage to break the ring area of some of the pistons so the pistons and cylinder can't be reused. The pistons and cylinders are M & W so this engine doesn't have 75 years of grime on it.

I went to our local machine shop to get an idea of cost to remove and install sleeves. He wanted to do some super cleaning of the block, hot tank/powder blast and $200 was mentioned for the cleaning cost. He mentioned a lot of time to clean the lower o-ring area of the sleeves. Seems like the actual cost of doing the sleeves was around $100. Today I power washed and thoroughly cleaned the block.

How difficult is it to remove and replace sleeves?

 

[Powered By IH]

I just bought an Allis C for $250, the engine was partially disassembled. I'm contemplating a complete rebuild. The engine looked like it got water down the exhaust and might have been locked up. There is scoring in some of the cylinders and the guy who took it apart did manage to break the ring area of some of the pistons so the pistons and cylinder can't be reused. The pistons and cylinders are M & W so this engine doesn't have 75 years of grime on it.

I went to our local machine shop to get an idea of cost to remove and install sleeves. He wanted to do some super cleaning of the block, hot tank/powder blast and $200 was mentioned for the cleaning cost. He mentioned a lot of time to clean the lower o-ring area of the sleeves. Seems like the actual cost of doing the sleeves was around $100. Today I power washed and thoroughly cleaned the block.

How difficult is it to remove and replace sleeves?

They shouldn't be that bad unless they are really rusted in place. They are a wet-sleeve engine, so a block of wood on the bottom with a sledgehammer should pop them out pretty easily. If you can't get them out first, then take it to a machine shop.

The hardest part is cleaning the bores where the o-rings go and the top where the sleeves sit, that is critical so coolant doesn't leak.

It all depends on what you are comfortable with though, the machine shop will get that block cleaner than you ever will, and will guarantee getting the sleeves out.

My $.02, FWIW

 

[JOCCO]

By IH is spot on and your shop fellows prices are not what i call bad. I would do the following (not knowing where you live) Block off the water intakes to radiator and fill to top of block with water. Let set for a day or two. This is to check for leaks and cracks (froze up) If all is good proceed. Next I would go with a new sleeve and piston kit. You would be well on your way to a new and good motor.

 

[atlarge54]

Well that was pretty easy- - -now to get everything cleaned up and think about ordering parts.