460 / 560 overall differences ?

[IHMANKY]

Searched and found a small bit of info from 2007 but thought I might get a better run down with a new post. For some reason, I've got the itch for a 460/560. WF, 3 point hitch but will add the hitch kit if I have to. If it's just going to be a roadside mower and pull a hay rake from time to time, do I care whether it's a 460 or 560? Prefer a gasser just because it will not get a lot of use and will sit long periods of time, I can clean or rebuild a carb many many times over compared to having a pump gone through. Won't need the additional HP of the 560, mainly depends on what I find depending on condition and distance from me. I assume both had optional power steering, and both have an independent PTO, so what else am I looking at for differences that actually matter. Do both have TA? I remember one of the two having a weak diff or axles or something along those lines, but I'm not going to be pulling anything that concerns me there, doubt it will ever pull anything ground-engaging.

 

[Rich'sToys]

Either one will have more than enough power for those jobs. We had a 560 gas when I was growing up--my brother still has it. It has power steering, live PTO and TA. I don't know this, but assumed that those items were all standard equipment on those tractors. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[gmccool]

Both have Power Steering and live PTO as standard equip . The very first 560s had a problem I think with the ring gear. A tooth would chip off and get caught going around a poke a hole in the rear end case. I think they fixed that after the first year or so. In our area most were standard draw bar verse 2pt.

 

[AlinMO]

A 460 is a supped up H with a 6 cylinder, a 560 is the M version. You have to check to see if it has the options you want. Yes you could get it with all the options you mentioned but it may have none.

 

[560Dennis]

The 560 I have , we put a three point hitch on it we got . Major concern, one we got you have to do a lot of modifications to make it work .
Got lower the lift . The tool box hydraulic ports are in the way of the upper lift pivot.
Have to modify the right supports so the pto will engage.
Have modifications to the hitch to clear.
Have run new lines from hydraulic block to back or you won’t have hydraulic lift to equipment,like plows combine header .
Have to adapt fenders with kit to out board to clear.
There a lot more . If you’re handy . And have access to machine shop you can make it work.
I have photos with all the modifications necessary for my 560 .

 

[Hayfarmer]

I have a 560D that I used to run baler, swather and balewagon. Generally used it on fluffer also. It has been a good tractor. Has wide front and after market 3 pt hitch.. The aftermarket isn't as good as the real thing but is handy to have. Mine has been a great tractor. I understood that IH took care of the axle problem when they were new. Mine runs very economically on diesel, I don't know how the gassers are. I haven't had any experience with 460. It has a lot more room on platform than SMTA I have. I don't have fenders but put steps on front to get on that way.

 

[560Dennis]

Forgot to mention this ! Very important! Once you get the three point hitch on and secured. You cannot get on the tractor. You have to make places to secure your footing . If not it a long way to the ground on a 560. You find this out real quickly.
Where I place my foot holds may not work for you. But it is a must have , you see what I’m talking about as soon as attempting to get into the seat. Do not attempt to get on the tractor with muddy footwear.

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

Either one should do what you want. I'd say a 460 gasser would do fine. If it already has the FH, just get 3PT adapters & make sure there's a bracket for the top link. A FH mower would be easy enough to come across, too.

Most of the 60 series tractors have PS, FH, IPTO & at least two levers for remotes. Most.

Mike

 

[IHMANKY]

Forgot to mention this ! Very important! Once you get the three point hitch on and secured. You cannot get on the tractor. You have to make places to secure your footing . If not it a long way to the ground on a 560. You find this out real quickly.
Where I place my foot holds may not work for you. But it is a must have , you see what I’m talking about as soon as attempting to get into the seat. Do not attempt to get on the tractor with muddy footwear.

Good warning. I would add steps like what's typical on the later series if I went this route, my days of scrambling up the rear of a tractor and swinging my leg over the seat like I'm trying to hop on a horse are behind me.

 

[MeanGene1]

My 450 has a HD aftermarket Cat II three point, and is definitely no friendly to getting on from the rear. It has had a homemade step added in front where the 06 tractors have one. I plan on making a different one with two steps to make it easier

 

[Mark EC.IN]

For what you want to do, I don't think it would matter which you get. I have a 560 and use a three-point adapter for three-point implements.

 

[rustred]

Both have Power Steering and live PTO as standard equip . The very first 560s had a problem I think with the ring gear. A tooth would chip off and get caught going around a poke a hole in the rear end case. I think they fixed that after the first year or so. In our area most were standard draw bar verse 2pt.

no such thing happened.

 

[the tractior vet]

Either one will have more than enough power for those jobs. We had a 560 gas when I was growing up--my brother still has it. It has power steering, live PTO and TA. I don't know this, but assumed that those items were all standard equipment on those tractors. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Not vary common BUT every once in a while you may run across one that is a bare bones 4-560 mean in NO P/S , NO IDPTO , NO T/A and NO FAST HITCH . In my being around I H tractors for 70 years ( yea i am that flippen OLD ) i have seen a lot . it was 1958, first when a 560 Diesel wide ft showed up at my uncles farm , first big wheel tractor and a set of 550 five bottoms and a new 37 13 foot disc and a John Bean 2 row potato harvester with the nightmare 4 V Wisconsin . And mid March of 59 the new 460 wide ft diesel and a set of 540 4 bottoms with a set of two row ft mount cultivators as we were still planting with a two row planter . in early Sept of 63 the 560 gave way to the 806 and the 460 was replaced in spring with the 706 For me the 460 and 560 were the first wheel tractors i was allowed to run . Later in life i bought a 460 gas , it was a vary early 460 gas with S/N 571, yep it was the WORST tractor i ever owned Yep we had inner rear axle bearing failure , we had Hy. issues and it drank gas like a drunken sailor on shore leave . It had a habit of running out of gas at the far end of the field on the last pass in a twenty acre field . My thinking it would do what my 450 Diesel would do i was wrong . Plum hated that tractor .

 

[the tractior vet]

My 450 has a HD aftermarket Cat II three point, and is definitely no friendly to getting on from the rear. It has had a homemade step added in front where the 06 tractors have one. I plan on making a different one with two steps to make it easier

Myself i don't like them ADD ON 3 POINTS , give me a fast hitch anyday and if i want to use three point i will build myself adapters like i use to build

 

[MeanGene1]

Myself i don't like them ADD ON 3 POINTS , give me a fast hitch anyday and if i want to use three point i will build myself adapters like i use to build

This hitch was on the 450 when I got it. It is VERY beefy, and CATII, and works quite well. I have a couple sets of the adapters you speak of, as my 350D Utility has a Fast Hitch

 

[the tractior vet]

no such thing happened.

no such thing happened.

The main issue with the 560's was the inner axle bearings failing and this could cause the bull gear and bull pinion go to lunch . they had Ball bearings and the change was to a roller bearing to carry the load . my 460 was and early 460 S/N 571 and even though i bought it in 1976 it had never been changed and on the second field of spring plowing the bearing failed . and we fixed it setting in the furrow fun times with the help of a old ford back hoe . got it running and took it to the shop and pulled the left side apart and changed that one . . And yes what i said about add on's over basic were all options that dealers loaded up on . Ya see a lot of 560's with straight draw bars that was std. Fast hitch was option along with the rest .

 

[rustred]

Yes, I was referring to the post about the ring gear chipping. I have a 1959 Farmall 560 that has the triangle stamped on the serial number plate. Plus I have replaced a couple of inner axle brgs. On dad’s 1962 560 years ago.

 

[dhermesc]

The 460 and 560 share engines from the same "family" - the 460 having a 221 cubic inch and the 560 having 263. Supposedly my 460 has a 263 from a 656. If I ever got energetic enough to check, I could verify by measuring the stroke.

 

[kub6040]

460 and 560 may not be what you want , you said climbing up the back of tractor and swinging leg over seat is in the past , that the only way you gonna get on one without real farmer innovation. A 504 or 656 may be more of a get on In front of the seat tractor .