Ford 4000 3-Cylinder Diesel Engine.

[Wishbone375]

I just acquired a 3-cylinder diesel engine that to my understanding is from a Ford 4000. I wanted to know if anyone had info on that tractor. I don't know much about tractors but was thinking of making a towing rig for around the property with this engine. But I wanted to know if anyone knew the towing capacity and where I can buy a transmission. Any information helps even if its not related to what I asked. The value of one of these tractors or engines is also in my group of wonders lol. THanks for anything.

 

[Texasmark]

Tractor Data .com lists the specifics on tractors including their engines....... https://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/008/9/4/8943-ford-4000.html

 

[Wishbone375]

Tractor Data .com lists the specifics on tractors including their engines....... https://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/008/9/4/8943-ford-4000.html

I'll take a look thanks

 

[slimbo]

The 3 cylinder diesels from the 400's were great little engines for their size. lots of power for just a 3 cylinder. they will get down and work too. Factory cooling wasn't the greatest on them. The motor could outwork the radiator system, especially if dirty.

As for towing capacity, that is going to be completely determined by the gears you run it on. Gear it low enough and you can tow an 18 wheeler with it, but you will be able to walk faster than you are moving...

While it will bite down and work pretty hard, just remember it is a mid 50hp 3 cylinder engine. don't expect it to be a HD pickup truck.

 

[Wishbone375]

The 3 cylinder diesels from the 400's were great little engines for their size. lots of power for just a 3 cylinder. they will get down and work too. Factory cooling wasn't the greatest on them. The motor could outwork the radiator system, especially if dirty.

As for towing capacity, that is going to be completely determined by the gears you run it on. Gear it low enough and you can tow an 18 wheeler with it, but you will be able to walk faster than you are moving...

While it will bite down and work pretty hard, just remember it is a mid 50hp 3 cylinder engine. don't expect it to be a HD pickup truck.

With lets say I am running the stock gearing. What about that?

 

[Sean in PA]

Did you get the transmission from the tractor with the engine?

 

[Wishbone375]

Did you get the transmission from the tractor with the engine?

No I did not. Any info where I can buy one?

 

[Destroked 450]

Do you have the tractor or are you wanting to put the engine in something like a 4x4 truck chassis

 

[Wishbone375]

Do you have the tractor or are you wanting to put the engine in something like a 4x4 truck chassis

Hoping to put it in something for a round the yard tow rig. Dont have the tractor. or transmission. just the engine

 

[Destroked 450]

I don’t know of any one that makes a adapter to mount a automotive style transmission to those engines, there may be but I have no knowledge of one

 

[Sean in PA]

No I did not. Any info where I can buy one?

I asked because you asked about running with the stock gearing. An answer to that won't help answer your original question unless you plan to put it back into a Ford 4000 tractor with a stock transmission, rear end and tire sizes. That tractor originally had a few different transmissions available, all with slightly different gearing, and a few different tire sizes, which would also change the pulling power. The engine, as has been stated puts out around 57 hp at the flywheel. The amount that it can pull will vary depending on the gearing of whatever transmission and rear axle you decide to pair it up with, as well as what size tires and what type of tread, and whether you are towing on loose dirt, hard packed soil, asphalt or concrete. On anything but asphalt or concrete, I would bet that the wheels would start slipping before you reached the true pulling power of the engine, which would be exhibited by the tires slipping before the engine starts to bog down. Also, the nature of what you are pulling will contribute to the maximum weight that you can pull. Dragging a tree trunk would be one thing, while putting that tree trunk onto a trailer would be something completely different.

 

[Wishbone375]

I asked because you asked about running with the stock gearing. An answer to that won't help answer your original question unless you plan to put it back into a Ford 4000 tractor with a stock transmission, rear end and tire sizes. That tractor originally had a few different transmissions available, all with slightly different gearing, and a few different tire sizes, which would also change the pulling power. The engine, as has been stated puts out around 57 hp at the flywheel. The amount that it can pull will vary depending on the gearing of whatever transmission and rear axle you decide to pair it up with, as well as what size tires and what type of tread, and whether you are towing on loose dirt, hard packed soil, asphalt or concrete. On anything but asphalt or concrete, I would bet that the wheels would start slipping before you reached the true pulling power of the engine, which would be exhibited by the tires slipping before the engine starts to bog down.

Ok. I was not aware of the different types of transmissions beside one that had i think 8 forward and 2 reverse. As for the tires I don't know.

 

[Texasmark]

With lets say I am running the stock gearing. What about that?

Well sir it's about foot-pounds of torque. Horsepower is torque rotating at certain speed....both which determine the HP consumed.....small engine high gear ratio would do a certain job. High HP engine running at a low gear ratio would do the same thing.

My brain is probably technically dead since I retired from industry back in 2005. Back then (Torque x RPM)/5252 for the non Calculus answer was the recipe for HP. There is another definition which I forget: 1 HP can move 30,000# 1 foot in a minute or something like that....punch that question into a www search engine and you will get your answer.

Course HP as defined is one thing.....the rest of the story is the efficiency in the application of that HP to the task at hand....a 500,000 HP tractor pulling a 10' plow is useless unless it can get traction in the soil. Ouch my brain hurts.

 

[Wishbone375]

Well sir it's about foot-pounds of torque. Horsepower is torque rotating at certain speed....both which determine the HP consumed.....small engine high gear ratio would do a certain job. High HP engine running at a low gear ratio would do the same thing.

My brain is probably technically dead since I retired from industry back in 2005. Back then (Torque x RPM)/5252 for the non Calculus answer was the recipe for HP. There is another definition which I forget: 1 HP can move 30,000# 1 foot in a minute or something like that....punch that question into a www search engine and you will get your answer.

Course HP as defined is one thing.....the rest of the story is the efficiency in the application of that HP to the task at hand....a 500,000 HP tractor pulling a 10' plow is useless unless it can get traction in the soil. Ouch my brain hurts.

Im with ya my brain hurts too. thats alot of math lol

 

[a49deere]

Do yourself a favor and list the engine for sale and buy yourself a tractor!

 

[shaun wallace]

Years ago dealership worked at put a BSD333 in a Ingram roller. They got a SAE bell housing that fit engine to transmission in it. Find a Ford Industrial Engine distributor, they can tell you what you need.

 

[Welding man]

I put one in a Waldon loader one time. The Perkins expired and we found a new Ford. It took a lot of fabrication. Motor mounts -bell housing etc. It drove a hydraulic pump, similar to a skid steer set up. Belonged to a local farm supply. Loaded a lot fo bulk feed and fertilizer with it.

 

[Wishbone375]

Years ago dealership worked at put a BSD333 in a Ingram roller. They got a SAE bell housing that fit engine to transmission in it. Find a Ford Industrial Engine distributor, they can tell you what you need.

Alright I will take a look thanks