IH disc

[Overland660]

I have an IH 12’ disc. I think it’s a model 37 or 370. Has 7”spacing. 11 discs per gang. I think they had 16” on the front and 18” on the rear. I’m not sure of the model #. I have several broken discs but the bearings seem ok. I would like to rebuild this and replace all the discs and bearings. Does anyone know the model? What is recommended for disc sizes and bearings? And where to get the parts?
Thanks,
Bob

 

[Overland660]

I found the model. It’s an IH 350.

 

[DoubleR]

Agri Supply should have what you need. The Case I-H dealer will also be able to get you parts.

 

[paul]

I don’t know of any disk that came with different sized blades.

In the economy years of the past it was common to put new blades on the front and the least worn blades on the rear.

Also it is common for the front gang to wear down more that the rear gang.

I would not intentionally put different sized blades on if replacing with all new. They should throw the same amount of dirt inward as outward, you don’t want miss matched blades but we are frugal and end up trying to get by with slightly mismatched….

Also I would want to use the biggest blades that fit the disk. Can angle less or more for the job at hand, bigger is better when you really need to cut something up with a disk.

Good luck with it. Can make a whole new machine out it with new blades and a little tlc here and there.

Paul

 

[Overland660]

I don’t know of any disk that came with different sized blades.

In the economy years of the past it was common to put new blades on the front and the least worn blades on the rear.

Also it is common for the front gang to wear down more that the rear gang.

I would not intentionally put different sized blades on if replacing with all new. They should throw the same amount of dirt inward as outward, you don’t want miss matched blades but we are frugal and end up trying to get by with slightly mismatched….

Also I would want to use the biggest blades that fit the disk. Can angle less or more for the job at hand, bigger is better when you really need to cut something up with a disk.

Good luck with it. Can make a whole new machine out it with new blades and a little tlc here and there.

Paul

Thanks for the advice. I looked up more information about this disc. I thought it was a 12ft but it’s actually a 14’. I found the parts on Shoup.com. Not cheap to rebuild but if I do it will last me the rest of my farming time.

 

[DanielW]

Bought a pile of discs for our 37 not long ago. If you're in the US, Shoup is a good source. A little pricier than other options, but they have everything. Shoup isn't so great if you're here in Canada, as their shipping options are always a little pricier than others, and they often have the wrong duty code put on the parts, so stuff that should have minimal/no customs charge ends up costing a fortune to get across the border. As you've probably found out already, those discs have 1-1/8" square shafting. For mine, I bought universal aftermarket discs that have a centre hole pattern for both 1-1/8" and 1-1/4" (turned 45 degrees from each other, so they can accept both). I bought mine from Canada Farm Supply (or rather, from CFS through a local NH dealer - every dealer around here places aftermarket orders from CFS pretty regularly).

I've been uncertain about what guage is best to order for replacement discs that get beat to holy-heck in our the rough/rocky soil at our Northern farm in the Canadian shield. I've tried thinner 11 gauge, which feel light when you're handling them, but they're made in Canada from a very high yield steel. Have also tried the more common & thicker 9 gauge ones that are made overseas with steel that's not quite so tough. And have also tried some 6 gauge ones that are very beefy, but they make the gangs so much heavier that they hit the rocks very hard. Still uncertain which ones give me the best life.

I'm not sure I'd buy more replacement discs anymore either: With everyone getting out of conventional tillage, you can pick up a decent set of discs that size/age for $500 - $1000, which is cheaper than you can replace several discs & bearings for. I'm keeping my eye out for any #37 set that comes up for sale not too far from me. If I got one or two more 37's, I could mix match as desired and probably have enough parts to keep me going for the rest of my life.

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

Bought a pile of discs for our 37 not long ago. If you're in the US, Shoup is a good source. A little pricier than other options, but they have everything. Shoup isn't so great if you're here in Canada, as their shipping options are always a little pricier than others, and they often have the wrong duty code put on the parts, so stuff that should have minimal/no customs charge ends up costing a fortune to get across the border. As you've probably found out already, those discs have 1-1/8" square shafting. For mine, I bought universal aftermarket discs that have a centre hole pattern for both 1-1/8" and 1-1/4" (turned 45 degrees from each other, so they can accept both). I bought mine from Canada Farm Supply (or rather, from CFS through a local NH dealer - every dealer around here places aftermarket orders from CFS pretty regularly).

I've been uncertain about what guage is best to order for replacement discs that get beat to holy-heck in our the rough/rocky soil at our Northern farm in the Canadian shield. I've tried thinner 11 gauge, which feel light when you're handling them, but they're made in Canada from a very high yield steel. Have also tried the more common & thicker 9 gauge ones that are made overseas with steel that's not quite so tough. And have also tried some 6 gauge ones that are very beefy, but they make the gangs so much heavier that they hit the rocks very hard. Still uncertain which ones give me the best life.

I'm not sure I'd buy more replacement discs anymore either: With everyone getting out of conventional tillage, you can pick up a decent set of discs that size/age for $500 - $1000, which is cheaper than you can replace several discs & bearings for. I'm keeping my eye out for any #37 set that comes up for sale not too far from me. If I got one or two more 37's, I could mix match as desired and probably have enough parts to keep me going for the rest of my life.

Is CFS the company that supplies all the Kverneland plow parts for N. America or is that a different company?

Mike

 

[DanielW]

Is CFS the company that supplies all the Kverneland plow parts for N. America or is that a different company?

Mike

I'm guessing it's a different company. I'm not sure how much fabrication capability CFS has on their own. CFS is pretty much like A&I or Sparex - a company that specializes in aftermarket farm part supply, and other distributors/dealers buy from them regularly.

If I had to guess, I'd say that Sparex might be a more likely candidate for the main supplier of those Scandinavian plow parts. Sparex is bigger than A&I (and way bigger than CFS) worldwide. But Sparex isn't quite as popular here in North Americas they are overseas. Because they're a British company, they offer oodles of parts for all British & European equipment. But I know other companies must also either offer those parts, or else the company that does the casting for them offers different molds with different distributors' names cast in them.

For our Kverneland, I was surprised the last time I bought landsides to see 'Canada' cast in them. I would have thought they would all have been from Europe. For our Overum plow with the hammer-on points, I know that one of the companies that cast replacement points must have offered to cast different dealers' names in them, because there were some of those Overum/Kongskilde hammer-on points had 'Oliver' cast in them. I initially thought that Oliver must have made their own plow back in the day with that style of hammer-on points. But that's not the case - I found out they were made for an aftermarket parts dealer that happened to be 'Oliver and Sons" (nothing to do with the Oliver equipment company).

 

[Texasmark]

Thanks for the advice. I looked up more information about this disc. I thought it was a 12ft but it’s actually a 14’. I found the parts on Shoup.com. Not cheap to rebuild but if I do it will last me the rest of my farming time.

Shoup has a very diversified catalog.....and as you say are pricy......but what matters to you.....price of having your implement work as you expect it or having to pay a little more for the convenience.......I find that Agri-Supply to be pricy too, especially shipping from NC-SC (forget which) to Tx. but like Shoup can usually fill your request for parts. Things like discs come by motor freight on pallets (skids) and you can pickup them at the freight terminal and sometimes freight companies will drop them at your driveway if you can unload their 18 wheeler.......tractor with adequate FEL.

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

I'm guessing it's a different company. I'm not sure how much fabrication capability CFS has on their own. CFS is pretty much like A&I or Sparex - a company that specializes in aftermarket farm part supply, and other distributors/dealers buy from them regularly.

If I had to guess, I'd say that Sparex might be a more likely candidate for the main supplier of those Scandinavian plow parts. Sparex is bigger than A&I (and way bigger than CFS) worldwide. But Sparex isn't quite as popular here in North Americas they are overseas. Because they're a British company, they offer oodles of parts for all British & European equipment. But I know other companies must also either offer those parts, or else the company that does the casting for them offers different molds with different distributors' names cast in them.

For our Kverneland, I was surprised the last time I bought landsides to see 'Canada' cast in them. I would have thought they would all have been from Europe. For our Overum plow with the hammer-on points, I know that one of the companies that cast replacement points must have offered to cast different dealers' names in them, because there were some of those Overum/Kongskilde hammer-on points had 'Oliver' cast in them. I initially thought that Oliver must have made their own plow back in the day with that style of hammer-on points. But that's not the case - I found out they were made for an aftermarket parts dealer that happened to be 'Oliver and Sons" (nothing to do with the Oliver equipment company).

I found it. The site I was thinking of is Agri-Can. Can't miss the dark background.

That's a pretty cool find, pertaining to Oliver & Sons. Never heard of it before. Didn't think to look for foundry marks on the points, either. Will have to keep an eye out for that.

Mike