Funk 8N Water Pump.....?

[Crow Horse]

I'm helping my FIL with his Funk Ford 8N and need to locate a water pump. While finishing up converting it to an alternator the seal in the pump let go. I believe it's a 226 flat head. Attached are some photos of the pump. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[MeanGene1]

I had the same problem with mine, ran great but the pump was leaking. Unobtainium of course. I planned on sending it to a specialty shop in Sacramento for a rebuild, haven't gotten around to it

 

[Crow Horse]

Thanks! Do you have the contact info for them?

 

[Den N Ms]

Thanks! Do you have the contact info for them?

Crow try
Dan Bailey
4706 Detroit St
Dearborn Hts, MI 48125
313-530-2893

Give him a call!

 

[Colin King]

I'm helping my FIL with his Funk Ford 8N and need to locate a water pump. While finishing up converting it to an alternator the seal in the pump let go. I believe it's a 226 flat head. Attached are some photos of the pump. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

If Den's contact doesn't work for you, try:

Automotive Manufacturers
N Lombardy St
Richmond, VA 23220
804-321-6861

I've used them for years and they do good work. My last job was a couple of years ago and was actually a water pump off a 226 out of my '48 F6.

Colin

 

[Jim.ME]

Here is a rebuilder in the northeast.

Arthur Gould Rebuilders

 

[MeanGene1]

The contact is through my neighbor who owns the local speed n machine shop- I will see him on Friday. I would think that most every metro area has a similar shop

 

[HarryVanderpool]

Devel's advocate question:
How hard can it possibly be to rebuild a water pump?
I haven't ever done one, but I have rebuilt everything else on the planet earth.
Seems to me that you press it apart, replace bearings and seals, press back together.
Anyone here ever "rebuilt" one?

 

[Jim.ME]

Devel's advocate question:
How hard can it possibly be to rebuild a water pump?
I haven't ever done one, but I have rebuilt everything else on the planet earth.
Seems to me that you press it apart, replace bearings and seals, press back together.
Anyone here ever "rebuilt" one?

I have rebuilt several. You need the correct info for the pump (some parts can only go one way in or out of the housing), a press, dimensions before and after pressing parts out and in, and the right tooling/ jigs to use with the press. And of course, all the correct parts. Even then, you risk breaking the housing.

I have no doubt some will say you can just use a hammer and punch, but that is not the way I am going to advise.

 

[Crow Horse]

Thanks for all the replies! I called Dan Bailey and what he told me checks all the boxes. I have to run this past my FIL but I think he'll be on board with it.

 

[Duner Wi]

7HA was H series 6 cyl flathead used1947 -1951 cars and pickup.Water pump should not be difficult. I see rebuild kit on eBay with bearing ,seal and gasket for about $110.00.

 

[8NChris]

Have a bunch of sockets on hand. I haven't done my 226 yet but have done several others. It should be the same type seal/sleve combo that presses in. I stack the sockets within .010" of the seals natural resting place. Some offer a tool. Take some time and measure everything to get it back where it was. I haven't had a new bearing in the wrong place on the shaft yet but it could happen.

 

[8NChris]

Have a bunch of sockets on hand. I haven't done my 226 yet but have done several others. It should be the same type seal/sleve combo that presses in. I stack the sockets within .010" of the seals natural resting place. Some offer a tool. Take some time and measure everything to get it back where it was. I haven't had a new bearing in the wrong place on the shaft yet but it could happen.

Referring to Jim's post, keep the housing, bearing and press true. As I recall the ones I have done were fairly flat and thick housings. If you get ahold of an odd shaped pump with a thin housing you may be better off going to someone who deals with that pump. Chances are they'll remember how to bust them.

 

[Crow Horse]

I had contacted Dan Bailey. His price and turn around time was really good and I had my FIL all set to ship it to him. As luck would have it, he had left the pump at the local NAPA to see what they could come up with. They left it out on the counter and it drew a lot of attention and locals knew what the pump came off of and long story short, NAPA found a pump for him costing $75 and will have it in a couple of days.

Thanks to everyone who has chimed in!!!

 

[8NChris]

Crow Horse, is FIL your friend in love? I couldn't figure that acronym.

EDIT: It occurred to me after the fact. Father-in-law

 

[joeysmith]

Father in law

 

[Crow Horse]

Thank you 8NChris! I got a really good laugh!!!!!!