Aftermarket Water Pump Rebuild?

[rangerdanger]

I have an aftermarket pump for the G, but have no idea how to get it apart. I thought it was set screws from what appear to be threads but the bottom of the holes look flat. From my research this was sold by tractor supply, however I can find no diagrams for it. I found a photo on Facebook of the same type installed for reference.

Or is this even worth the effort for the gain?

 

[a49deere]

impeller is probably a press fit! Why are you taking it apart?

 

[Mark-Ia]

Looks like a Johnson aftermarket water pump. I wouldn't mess with it. Perhaps advertise it for someone to hang on their wall.

 

[rrlund]

For the price of these aftermarkets anymore, I wouldn't even waste my time on it. Order a new one, throw that one in the cast pile and go back to work.

 

[rangerdanger]

For the price of these aftermarkets anymore, I wouldn't even waste my time on it. Order a new one, throw that one in the cast pile and go back to work.

Any idea where I could get one?

 

[rangerdanger]

impeller is probably a press fit! Why are you taking it apart?

It wasn't installed on the tractor and I'm not sure if it's any good. But we have all the parts to do it but I doubt it's worth the hassle.

 

[Fixingfarmer]

Was early enough by the look of the type of pipe coming out of the radiator to originally be thermosiphon? A and G with the bigger radiator had significantly less trouble overheating when I’ve been putting them under load in the summer time. Unless you are pulling with it or doing something crazy I’d consider putting it back how it was.

You might not even need to purchase anything except a piece of hose to jump between the radiator and the head. You also would peel the rubber off the cap if someone installed a pressure cap.

 

[rangerdanger]

Yes, it is currently a thermosiphon. My father had wanted to put a water pump on it to go to events and pull a plow with it. We have a late model g pump but no matching radiator tank F1051R to bolt it to and then this aftermarket one he bought which we have all the parts for. I included that other photo because it's the only pic I've ever seen of one installed like we would on this one.

It was just something fun we wanted to add to it to pull a plow we're also restoring.

By bigger radiator do you mean a 4 row? Because we're likely replacing the core as well and this one is a 3 row.

 

[Fixingfarmer]

Yes, it is currently a thermosiphon. My father had wanted to put a water pump on it to go to events and pull a plow with it. We have a late model g pump but no matching radiator tank F1051R to bolt it to and then this aftermarket one he bought which we have all the parts for. I included that other photo because it's the only pic I've ever seen of one installed like we would on this one.

It was just something fun we wanted to add to it to pull a plow we're also restoring.

By bigger radiator do you mean a 4 row? Because we're likely replacing the core as well and this one is a 3 row.

Yes but I also mean physically larger it’s 4 inches taller and wider it holds several gallons more you can only fit the size radiator under that beautiful tinwork that you can fit.

I didn’t count the rows on the 52 G that was here for new tanks and a core a couple years ago but I know the good old style radiator core cost more (this was for an assembled unit mind you not something I would do for myself I did not disassemble or touch it beyond pulling it ready to go bolt in from a very good Waterloo radiator shop) than what I’ve paid for my A. Core itself was 1000 with the copper price.

If it was me I’d try what you have.

I wouldn’t go changing to the other tank either if you are dead set on the pump I’d get another aftermarket one

An extra row of tubes is more water. There can be a difference in how a core cools you won’t know until you install it and try it out. An old plugged 4 row however would be worse than a new 3 row

G and the a have more space. The larger thermosiphon just seems to work better.

Unless it’s a summer plow event (plowing here at least mostly took place in the fall or early spring when it’s usually 85 degrees out or lower Cultivating took place now and would be a lighter load since it is beginning to warm up) it’s just fine even paying attention you would just have to drop a gear after letting it cool off a bit. An hour of plow work won’t hurt it any even at a warmer temp. If you see overheating at 65 degrees and there’s just a light to medium load even a 3 bottom plow you need to think plugged radiator and beyond that crack in cylinder head

Paying attention to and having a good gauge is the key. You can over work them too and it’s a good sign you should back off. They also will begin to run poorly backfiring and skipping as the manifold and gas being drawn in getd too hot there’s only 2 cylinders it’s much more noticeable there’s an issue than a 4 or 6.

It’s my opinion that a water pump is just an extra thing to go wrong for my amount of use I’m glad my A doesn’t have one.

 

[rangerdanger]

Yes but I also mean physically larger it’s 4 inches taller and wider it holds several gallons more you can only fit the size radiator under that beautiful tinwork that you can fit.

I didn’t count the rows on the 52 G that was here for new tanks and a core a couple years ago but I know the good old style radiator core cost more (this was for an assembled unit mind you not something I would do for myself I did not disassemble or touch it beyond pulling it ready to go bolt in from a very good Waterloo radiator shop) than what I’ve paid for my A. Core itself was 1000 with the copper price.

If it was me I’d try what you have.

I wouldn’t go changing to the other tank either if you are dead set on the pump I’d get another aftermarket one

An extra row of tubes is more water. There can be a difference in how a core cools you won’t know until you install it and try it out. An old plugged 4 row however would be worse than a new 3 row

G and the a have more space. The larger thermosiphon just seems to work better.

Unless it’s a summer plow event (plowing here at least mostly took place in the fall or early spring when it’s usually 85 degrees out or lower Cultivating took place now and would be a lighter load since it is beginning to warm up) it’s just fine even paying attention you would just have to drop a gear after letting it cool off a bit. An hour of plow work won’t hurt it any even at a warmer temp. If you see overheating at 65 degrees and there’s just a light to medium load even a 3 bottom plow you need to think plugged radiator and beyond that crack in cylinder head

Paying attention to and having a good gauge is the key. You can over work them too and it’s a good sign you should back off. They also will begin to run poorly backfiring and skipping as the manifold and gas being drawn in getd too hot there’s only 2 cylinders it’s much more noticeable there’s an issue than a 4 or 6.

It’s my opinion that a water pump is just an extra thing to go wrong for my amount of use I’m glad my A doesn’t have one.

That's fantastic info, thank you so much. Sounds like I'm trying to do this the government way, take something simple and complicate it.