Grease suggestions

[sotxbill]

Be CAREFUL. Dad used Mystik JT-6 on his IH 2ME mounted corn picker for a couple years, worked good in fact, he could pick all morning before the worn plain bushing bearings would start making noises. I started using it in my Cub Cadet mower deck tapered roller spindle bearings. Took about 2 summers of mowing for the roller bearings to turn blue. Same thing on the frt spindle bearings of my '78 F-150 fwd pickup, Dana 44 frt axle.
The guy that rebuilt the Dana 44 axle recommended I switch to Lubriplate 1200-2 grease. I haven't had a bearing go bad since.

My two cubcadets/ blade spindles have SEALED bearing and still have a grease fitting. And since I have to mow weekly down here, I have to replace the blade spindles on a regular basis. They are not known to be long lasting despite what ever grease I use. Especially the "left" spindle where the belt doubles back on it self. Bottom line I would not use a cub cadet blade spindle with cheap sealed bearing.....for a grease recommendation of any kind. since the bearings are sealed, you can get the replacement spindle with, or without grease fittings.. as its use is questionable.

 

[Duner Wi]

My two cubcadets/ blade spindles have SEALED bearing and still have a grease fitting. And since I have to mow weekly down here, I have to replace the blade spindles on a regular basis. They are not known to be long lasting despite what ever grease I use. Especially the "left" spindle where the belt doubles back on it self. Bottom line I would not use a cub cadet blade spindle with cheap sealed bearing.....for a grease recommendation of any kind. since the bearings are sealed, you can get the replacement spindle with, or without grease fittings.. as its use is questionable.

You are sold on SEALED means sealed from dirt and therefore ungreaseable. I forgot to read that memo. Some sealed bearings are easier than others but nearly all can have grease added.
I can't remember a bearing failure in a bearing that had grease. I willsay adding grease to sealed ball bearings may not be cost effective if you're paying shop rates.

 

[37chief]

I bought my first grease tube in over 60 years. My brother had gun that took the cartridges. Sure is a lot easier, and not as messy. Dad had grease in 5 gal pales left over from farming. Some one gave me a 50 gal drum 1/3 full. That lasted until now. The tubes do work easy, but is just another expense. My woods mower seal went out. The 90 wt Stan

 

[37chief]

I didn't get a chanced to finish my post. I filled the mower gearbox with grease. That was a few years ago. It seams to be working fine. It does push a little out, I just add more. Stan again

 

[sotxbill]

You are sold on SEALED means sealed from dirt and therefore ungreaseable. I forgot to read that memo. Some sealed bearings are easier than others but nearly all can have grease added.
I can't remember a bearing failure in a bearing that had grease. I willsay adding grease to sealed ball bearings may not be cost effective if you're paying shop rates.

 

[Newgenerationdeere]

For greasing PTO shafts, kingpins, tie rod ends, u joints, and such. Lithium grease for that stuff or what do you use ? I usually just use wheel bearing grease but I think there could be something cheeper for other stuff then wheel bearings.

Lithium for sliding parts shafts tie rod ends and loader bushings . Synthetic for ujoints and bearings

 

[bmaverick]

I only have 2 types used here. #1 Lithium or the Blue Moly. Nothing ever failed in over 30+ years.

 

[SETX]

For greasing PTO shafts, kingpins, tie rod ends, u joints, and such. Lithium grease for that stuff or what do you use ? I usually just use wheel bearing grease but I think there could be something cheeper for other stuff then wheel bearings.

Mystic Red

 

[Newgenerationdeere]

For greasing PTO shafts, kingpins, tie rod ends, u joints, and such. Lithium grease for that stuff or what do you use ? I usually just use wheel bearing grease but I think there could be something cheeper for other stuff then wheel bearings.

Full synthetic in ujoints and moly for pins and bushings

 

[Destroked 450]

My two cubcadets/ blade spindles have SEALED bearing and still have a grease fitting. And since I have to mow weekly down here, I have to replace the blade spindles on a regular basis. They are not known to be long lasting despite what ever grease I use. Especially the "left" spindle where the belt doubles back on it self. Bottom line I would not use a cub cadet blade spindle with cheap sealed bearing.....for a grease recommendation of any kind. since the bearings are sealed, you can get the replacement spindle with, or without grease fittings.. as its use is questionable.

When replacing the bearings remove the inside seal, that way when you grease the spindle grease will reach the bearings, greasing the spindle with sealed bearings is a waste of time as the inside seal keeps grease from getting to the bearings

 

[Destroked 450]

I didn't get a chanced to finish my post. I filled the mower gearbox with grease. That was a few years ago. It seams to be working fine. It does push a little out, I just add more. Stan again

Cornhead grease would be a better choice for a leaky gear box

 

[the tractior vet]

For greasing PTO shafts, kingpins, tie rod ends, u joints, and such. Lithium grease for that stuff or what do you use ? I usually just use wheel bearing grease but I think there could be something cheeper for other stuff then wheel bearings.

Today i am not sure what is and what isn't . As i have found nothing that stands up as good as the stuff we use to use that is now gone . My buddy and i ran coal buckets back in the seventy's and early 80's , we hauled BIG loads what most called gross we called NET . He and i made big horse power and at first this big pony power was dinning on 1800 series U/Joints like M &M's pulling the hills , at the time we ran Pennsoil all across the board and we serviced the trucks every weekend and greased the drive line a couple times a week and were putting twenty pumps or better each time we crawled under per joint and also by Wed. we were greasing the fifth wheels because it was starting to handle like a 65 foot straight truck . The U/joint issue was so bad that we carried a spare for the ft. shaft and one for the back shaft and SOMETIMES we would be replacing one along side the road . Another trucker we knew said you guy's need to switch to what he used and sold . The product was called OILZUM (sp) . back then it was .75 a tube or 7.50 a 10 pack . He gave Mike and i a ten pac. each to try . Saturday morning like always it was go over the trucks early and if we needed parts we had till noon to go fetch .And we did our service work . loaded up the grease gun and under the truck i went armed with and extra tube like always it took twenty pumps per u/joint five on the steering axle per side and it took both tubes like always , used a whole tube on the fifth wheel , trailer took about a half tube . Monday at 3 Am we rolled out like always going after first load , run down to the mine and load ourselfs making each load look like a Dairy Queen sunday and off we go . Wed. before we load the second load for the day wh3en we pulled into the mine i pulled off in the grass grabbed the grease gun and crawled under the truck to give the drive line a shot on the first joint next to the transmission i got two pumps in before this Black nasty sticky stuff that ya can not get off of you no matter what you try , it was the same all the way back . The fifth wheel grease was not squshed out either . the next Saturday morning we both were down at Jim's and we each bought 10 cases . And started usen it on everything , the tractors and everything else . It stayed on everything it touched including yourself and clothes . Ya get it on your hands washing them in the parts cleaner only thinned it out a bit , gas no help there Go jo nah it took a lot to get it off and nothing would get it out of your clothes . Ended up buying coveralls for truck work . when they got to bad they got burnt . That company was out of Mass. and then got bought out by Standard oil and it was POOOOFF GONE . When i left trucking and into the oil patch that grease followed , Running a service company ya had to deal with every product salesman that came down the pike and one was from L E lubrication tryen to pedal his way over priced snake oil and was giving me the the demo on how great his 4.50 a tube grease was over all other and i said wait a min and went into the parts room and bought out a fresh tube of the oilzum and said here lets see how this stack up and he proceeded and it put his to shame and he asked how much we were paying per tube of this stuff he had never seen and yep the cost went up as it was now 95 cents a tube . With that he packed up his demo machine and all the junk he hauled in and left never to be seen again. We lost that grease back in the 90's Now well what ever one can find that will stay . lately we have been usen Chevron from a place about 15 miles from me there red is decent and ya can pump it even in the cold . being and old goat i still HAND PUMP with the same grease gun i bought new back in 69 and don't ask how many hoses or ends i have put on it .

 

[JIM MN]

Any synthetic grease, it is sticky- stringy and stays put. Great lub properties. As Mobil 1 RED!

 

[ole fred]

Today i am not sure what is and what isn't . As i have found nothing that stands up as good as the stuff we use to use that is now gone . My buddy and i ran coal buckets back in the seventy's and early 80's , we hauled BIG loads what most called gross we called NET . He and i made big horse power and at first this big pony power was dinning on 1800 series U/Joints like M &M's pulling the hills , at the time we ran Pennsoil all across the board and we serviced the trucks every weekend and greased the drive line a couple times a week and were putting twenty pumps or better each time we crawled under per joint and also by Wed. we were greasing the fifth wheels because it was starting to handle like a 65 foot straight truck . The U/joint issue was so bad that we carried a spare for the ft. shaft and one for the back shaft and SOMETIMES we would be replacing one along side the road . Another trucker we knew said you guy's need to switch to what he used and sold . The product was called OILZUM (sp) . back then it was .75 a tube or 7.50 a 10 pack . He gave Mike and i a ten pac. each to try . Saturday morning like always it was go over the trucks early and if we needed parts we had till noon to go fetch .And we did our service work . loaded up the grease gun and under the truck i went armed with and extra tube like always it took twenty pumps per u/joint five on the steering axle per side and it took both tubes like always , used a whole tube on the fifth wheel , trailer took about a half tube . Monday at 3 Am we rolled out like always going after first load , run down to the mine and load ourselfs making each load look like a Dairy Queen sunday and off we go . Wed. before we load the second load for the day wh3en we pulled into the mine i pulled off in the grass grabbed the grease gun and crawled under the truck to give the drive line a shot on the first joint next to the transmission i got two pumps in before this Black nasty sticky stuff that ya can not get off of you no matter what you try , it was the same all the way back . The fifth wheel grease was not squshed out either . the next Saturday morning we both were down at Jim's and we each bought 10 cases . And started usen it on everything , the tractors and everything else . It stayed on everything it touched including yourself and clothes . Ya get it on your hands washing them in the parts cleaner only thinned it out a bit , gas no help there Go jo nah it took a lot to get it off and nothing would get it out of your clothes . Ended up buying coveralls for truck work . when they got to bad they got burnt . That company was out of Mass. and then got bought out by Standard oil and it was POOOOFF GONE . When i left trucking and into the oil patch that grease followed , Running a service company ya had to deal with every product salesman that came down the pike and one was from L E lubrication tryen to pedal his way over priced snake oil and was giving me the the demo on how great his 4.50 a tube grease was over all other and i said wait a min and went into the parts room and bought out a fresh tube of the oilzum and said here lets see how this stack up and he proceeded and it put his to shame and he asked how much we were paying per tube of this stuff he had never seen and yep the cost went up as it was now 95 cents a tube . With that he packed up his demo machine and all the junk he hauled in and left never to be seen again. We lost that grease back in the 90's Now well what ever one can find that will stay . lately we have been usen Chevron from a place about 15 miles from me there red is decent and ya can pump it even in the cold . being and old goat i still HAND PUMP with the same grease gun i bought new back in 69 and don't ask how many hoses or ends i have put on it .

To put how they loaded these trucks into perspective for those of you that aren't familiar with the coal buckets - back in the 80's, I would stop at a coal yard at East Bernstadt, KY to put about 10 tons of coal on the back of my 48 foot van trailer. I was going by there empty, and I didn't have to cut wood to heat the house that way.

Anyway, one time, I was waiting in the office and a tandem straight truck came in out of the mine loaded to the hilt. Jack weighed it and he left. Right behind him was a tri-axle. Jack weighed him and off he went. After chatting for a few minutes, I asked Jack what the trucks weighed out of curiosity. The tandem straight truck - a ten wheeler - 90,000 pounds. That is 10,000 pounds overweight for an 18 wheeler. The tri-axle? 105,000 pounds.

I've seen farmers over load hopper trailers, but not like that.

 

[JIM MN]

Synthetic; its sticky-stringy and stays put and stays in. As Mobil 1 RED. Good stuff.

 

[the tractior vet]

To put how they loaded these trucks into perspective for those of you that aren't familiar with the coal buckets - back in the 80's, I would stop at a coal yard at East Bernstadt, KY to put about 10 tons of coal on the back of my 48 foot van trailer. I was going by there empty, and I didn't have to cut wood to heat the house that way.

Anyway, one time, I was waiting in the office and a tandem straight truck came in out of the mine loaded to the hilt. Jack weighed it and he left. Right behind him was a tri-axle. Jack weighed him and off he went. After chatting for a few minutes, I asked Jack what the trucks weighed out of curiosity. The tandem straight truck - a ten wheeler - 90,000 pounds. That is 10,000 pounds overweight for an 18 wheeler. The tri-axle? 105,000 pounds.

I've seen farmers over load hopper trailers, but not like that.

The break in load on my new 1977 4300 eagle was 97000 and change NET . tractor and trailer weighed in at 27400 full of fuel and all my junk i had tucked under the sleeper . My buddy and i bought two new eagles on the same night at the same dealer with the same spec. just a bit different in colors . we put about 12000 miles on them and then we did the build of the engines . They came with the last of the NTC 350 small cams and when done on the Dyno at Cummins mine layed down way more then a NEW KTA 1150m 600 horse turned up 15 %and at 15 MPH faster then the 1150 did when it BROKE the chain and went flyen out the door . We had several friends that had bought new K W's W 900's with the KTA 1`150 -600 horse and MIKE AND I EVEN WITH THE LOADS WE HAULED could just drive away from them on any hill . One night while running for Chem haulers i took a load of scrap copper out of Packard electric in Warren Ohio headed for Carrnie N. J. across I 80 , back then Pa was a 73280 state , i had 98 and change in the wagon , speed limit was 55 . When one is doing one thing that one should not be doing it is wise to LOOK legal , so i was holding my speed down to around 60 , BUT as the sun went down All of us East bounds started picking it up and i was tagging along with a bunch of meat haulers headed for the City . As we were coming up on Bald Eagle they were putting the whip to there ponys and one of them said we will wait for ya at the Gap . I just ease down on the go pedal and bumped it up to 85 and they were walking away from me as they could hit the triple didget range and me 88 i was flat out and grossen over a 100 K that is really not the smart thing to do as we rounded the left curve i saw the boost pressure gauge going up fuel pressure was already pegged at 580 PSI and ya could hear the hair dryer starting to sing it's song as boost climbed to 68 psi a NORMAL 350 would only go to around 27-28 Psi and the pyrometer was headed for 1150 on the cold side and i am still in 13th . the BIG trucks were already dropping gears as you saw the puff of smoke with each down shift then the four ways started to come on as they dropped below 40 MPH and me well i moved out of the right lane into the middle lane and still running 78 MPH then into the cars only lane running with the cars and at 76 Mph io had to flip the red button and drop into 12th and went over the top at 76 MPH leaving everybody behind . Once on top i backed it back down to 60-65 and let them catch up . It was around three in the morning and a group of us took a break and went to a truck stop for coffee and as always the whining started on how heavy there loads were or how bad the truck ran and one GUY said man you blew past us ;like we were parked you have got to running really light , i reached into my shirt pocket and pulled my bills out and threw them into the center of the table and said read them and weep , one guy picked them up and unfolded them and said Jesses he's netting MORE then we are grossen . Mike and i ordered our truck to look like LITTLE trucks just one five inch pipe with muffler up the right side , no extra chicken lights just polished buds all the way around and polished 110 gallon tanks . Little trucks don't haul heavy and they don't go fast only BIG trucks haul heavy they are loud and go fast and the only way a little truck will pass a big truck is when the little truck is EMPTY or extremely light . I can not tell ya how many times that saved my bacon for being stopped for over load . I ran 10 x 22 tires the old big tire that the 11x24.5 replaced and i ran a cord tire that did not sag under load like the new radials did . Did i ever get nailed for overload yep we did . Got caught in Va.with my hands in the cookie jar grossen 129 and change in a 76280 state . almost got nailed to the cross here in Ohio with a 48 ton load of coal and the bear had me dead to rights and turned me around to take me to the scales two miles away . We had to fake him out and man my engine just blew up and i was DOA . We used the jake brake set on two cylinder so when he ORDERED me to restart the truck as soon as it fired it made some really nasty noises belching smoke and ever a huge back fire . So i made a phone call back to the dealer and told wild Bill to come get as my truck just blew up BUT don't come . and walked back to the truck and told the bear the wrecker would come get me as soon as they could and now we play the waiting game till he got tired of checking on me and then i would make a run for the place i was headed for . Took and hour and a half but i heard on my scanner he was called to a wreck and the hood went closed and we made a u turn and hammer down the three miles to the place the coal went . once unloaded we took the LONG way back out of the cops area . Ah the fun days of being a Commercial TOURIST . when we bought the trucks i never would have guessed that going from running only part of three state to running 27 . As the coal hauling dried up we were now stretchen our legs now hauling bulk mixing salt west to feed mills in In. Ill Mo and Iowa and hauling scrap stainless out of St Louis and Chicago back east and a lot of other stuff .