Ford 4500 radiator

[TomYaz]

So the old radiator is toast......good grief getting the two nuts off that hold it in place is a bear! Anyone know the size of that nut? Very hard for a rank amatuer mechanic to get a wrench on it.

 

[Andy Wickiser]

So the old radiator is toast......good grief getting the two nuts off that hold it in place is a bear! Anyone know the size of that nut? Very hard for a rank amatuer mechanic to get a wrench on it.

Here's the diagram for 4500 radiator and associated parts. Bolt and nut sizes are shown.

https://messicks.com/catalogs/new-holland/4500-3-cyl-industrial-tractor-01-65-12-74/04-cooling-system/08a02-08a02-radiator-related-parts-4000-5000-7000

 

[Destroked 450]

The nut should be 5/8 wrench size
4500 uses same size radiator as 5000 model

 

[TomYaz]

The nut should be 5/8 wrench size
4500 uses same size radiator as 5000 model

Thanks all...watched someone take it off a 4500 model that is slightly different/later..was able to use a ratchet...dont think I have clearance for that!

 

[Ultradog MN]

The bolt is a 7/16 carriage bolt.
Either a 5/8 or 11/16 wrench - don't remember which.
Unscrew the nut a couple turns then shove a screw driver between the radiator and bolster and cut them off with a sawzall. Will save you a bunch of time and cussing.

 

[TomYaz]

It was 11/16...and the nut was some weird type that only gives maybe 3/16 surface face to get the wrench on.....also had to cut my wrench down in order to get clearence. The nut starts to loosen, then tightens...!!@#@! Heck with this...got the cutting wheel and cut the whole thing off....did you know the rardiator appears to be all copper?? This radiator didnt have the built in oil cooler, and all the radiator part numbers all say "w/cooler"...

 

[Sean in PA]

If it has the manual reverser then it won't have the oil cooler. That cooler is for the fluid in the toque converter auto reverser or S-O-S transmissions. Most 4500s had the auto reverser, but some had the manual reverser or the S-O-S.

 

[TomYaz]

If it has the manual reverser then it won't have the oil cooler. That cooler is for the fluid in the toque converter auto reverser or S-O-S transmissions. Most 4500s had the auto reverser, but some had the manual reverser or the S-O-S.

Yep, I knew it wouldnt have it as I have the manual reverser. Just odd there is no radiator without the oil cooler specfied in the online doc from messicks. I suppose I could just cap those holes on the new one and forgetaboutit.

 

[Destroked 450]

Maybe you need to get new reading glasses
I just looked this up in Messick’s, and as I stated in my other post 4500 and 5000 use the same radiators

 

[TomYaz]

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Maybe you need to get new reading glasses
I just looked this up in Messick’s, and as I stated in my other post 4500 and 5000 use the same radiators

Does not "L/Cooler" mean it has the oil cooler?

 

[sotxbill]

"LESS" cooler
:WITH" cooler

 

[TomYaz]

"LESS" cooler
:WITH" cooler

Aha !!! dagnabbit nomenclature! in normal land we say w/o or w/

 

[Sean in PA]

Yeah, those old Ford parts diagrams use "With" and "Less"

 

[TomYaz]

Yeah, those old Ford parts diagrams use "With" and "Less"

Well before I am done with this project I am going to speak fluent Ford...