Fixing Brakes on a 1974 IH 200 - Fix Original Stuff or Replace with Modern??

[RTR]

This talks about it.

https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/1974-1975-ih-200-truck-4x4-axles-dana-44hd-dana-60ff.697072/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic

THANK YOU!

 

[RTR]

This talks about it.

https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/1974-1975-ih-200-truck-4x4-axles-dana-44hd-dana-60ff.697072/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic

The more I read about the conversions, the more I don't want to go that in-depth. I think for as little as I'm gonna drive/use it I could fix the original stuff. I just don't know what to look up and order - RockAuto has so many different parts listed. Of course I need to get soft brake lines, hard brake lines (possibly), pads, shoes, and wheel cylinders. BUT how do I know if I need new calipers?? I can have rotors checked and turned at the old school parts store we have in town. Should I try to rebuild the master cylinder and the brake booster or replace? I have never done brakes so I don't know.

 

[Duner Wi]

Here is what I would do. First, have rotors checked and cleaned up if possible. If they are serviceable,then we proceed. Have rear drums done locally. I replace everything possible on the rears,wheel cylinders. Hold down kits , all rear hardware if it is at all questionable. Brake shoes. All hoses for sure and hard lines if rusted at all.I make my own lines and enjoy that sort of work. Time consuming but rewarding. Replace master cylinder and front calipers. We are only going to do this once and if you change brake fluid occasionally you should be good for many years. Brake booster I am not sure about. Everything I have is old with out brake booster or if it has one I left it alone. IH never seemed to build 2 trucks alike so know exactly what you have when ordering parts. Rock Auto I have very good luck with. Just for the heck of it. How many wheel lugs per wheel? I could find reference to5,6,8 and 10. My guess is 8. Some folk really like copper nickel brake lines. Long life and easy to work with. I don't disagree. Have fun.

 

[Duner Wi]

Here is what I would do. First, have rotors checked and cleaned up if possible. If they are serviceable,then we proceed. Have rear drums done locally. I replace everything possible on the rears,wheel cylinders. Hold down kits , all rear hardware if it is at all questionable. Brake shoes. All hoses for sure and hard lines if rusted at all.I make my own lines and enjoy that sort of work. Time consuming but rewarding. Replace master cylinder and front calipers. We are only going to do this once and if you change brake fluid occasionally you should be good for many years. Brake booster I am not sure about. Everything I have is old with out brake booster or if it has one I left it alone. IH never seemed to build 2 trucks alike so know exactly what you have when ordering parts. Rock Auto I have very good luck with. Just for the heck of it. How many wheel lugs per wheel? I could find reference to5,6,8 and 10. My guess is 8. Some folk really like copper nickel brake lines. Long life and easy to work with. I don't disagree. Have fun.

Check and double check everything. Name brand parts can be sketchy nowadays. I can attest.

 

[RTR]

Here is what I would do. First, have rotors checked and cleaned up if possible. If they are serviceable,then we proceed. Have rear drums done locally. I replace everything possible on the rears,wheel cylinders. Hold down kits , all rear hardware if it is at all questionable. Brake shoes. All hoses for sure and hard lines if rusted at all.I make my own lines and enjoy that sort of work. Time consuming but rewarding. Replace master cylinder and front calipers. We are only going to do this once and if you change brake fluid occasionally you should be good for many years. Brake booster I am not sure about. Everything I have is old with out brake booster or if it has one I left it alone. IH never seemed to build 2 trucks alike so know exactly what you have when ordering parts. Rock Auto I have very good luck with. Just for the heck of it. How many wheel lugs per wheel? I could find reference to5,6,8 and 10. My guess is 8. Some folk really like copper nickel brake lines. Long life and easy to work with. I don't disagree. Have fun.

It is an 8-lug 3/4 ton truck with factory 4x4, 345 v8, manual steering, no a/c, boosted brakes (factory discs on front)

 

[MM-TX]

Since this is an orphan I think with parts in hand you can figure out what you have and what you need a lot better. I have no doubt you can get it fixed. Gotta stick your head in there.

 

[RTR]

Since this is an orphan I think with parts in hand you can figure out what you have and what you need a lot better. I have no doubt you can get it fixed. Gotta stick your head in there.

what do you mean by an orphan? Yes I do need to stick my head in there. I just have to dedicate a spot in the shop for it but currently have projects in every hole.

 

[Duner Wi]

I'm my mind orphan is Kaiser Frazer, Henry J, Studebaker , Hudson, Pontiac. Oakland LaSalle. That would be just a start. Others may have different view.

 

[MM-TX]

what do you mean by an orphan? Yes I do need to stick my head in there. I just have to dedicate a spot in the shop for it but currently have projects in every hole.

Just a catch all I use because it’s not mainstream enough to have a big choice of replacement parts. Nice truck. I like orphans.

 

[Gambles]

what do you mean by an orphan?

I would also consider it an orphan. But not in a bad way. Orphan, because IH stopped making pickups about 45+ years ago and they built their own engines, but subcontracted a higher concentration than other makers. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. I have a 1960 IH that is waiting for a lot of attention. It’ll happen when I get a round tuit.

 

[Duner Wi]

I tend to gravitate towards orphans. Gives you exclusivetivly. That's what people have wanted since Model T Fords. I have something no one else has.

 

[560Dennis]

Measure a panic stop at 50 mph and see how many feet it is to stop and then put on four wheel rotors measure another panic stop at 50 mph . I’m sure you won’t regret the effort after you see the results .