New Holland 1034 Bale Wagon Rolling Rack Moves Very Slowly

[blueacre]

I recently bought a 1034 New Holland Bale Wagon. Got it too late for first crop but plan to use it for second crop. The first and second table seem to function properly as well as tilting the the main load rack to unload in a stack. The stack push off cylinders work as well. The problem I am having is moving the rolling rack forward and backward. I am using the controls on the side of the wagon. The rack will move to the back but slower than I would have expected compared to how fast all the other cylinders move including the larger load rack cylinders. The bigger problem is moving the rolling rack forward. When holding the valve fully open the rack barely moves - it takes more than 5 minutes for the rolling rack to move all the way to the front. It isnt binding or jumping like it is catching on something - it moves at a constant very slow speed. If I climb in the wagon I can move the rack fairly easily by hand at any point in its travel so I am pretty sure it is a hydraulic issue. I have the operator's mnual but there is no hydraulic schematic in it so I am not sure where to look. I would appreciate any suggestions on what to look for.

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

I recently bought a 1034 New Holland Bale Wagon. Got it too late for first crop but plan to use it for second crop. The first and second table seem to function properly as well as tilting the the main load rack to unload in a stack. The stack push off cylinders work as well. The problem I am having is moving the rolling rack forward and backward. I am using the controls on the side of the wagon. The rack will move to the back but slower than I would have expected compared to how fast all the other cylinders move including the larger load rack cylinders. The bigger problem is moving the rolling rack forward. When holding the valve fully open the rack barely moves - it takes more than 5 minutes for the rolling rack to move all the way to the front. It isnt binding or jumping like it is catching on something - it moves at a constant very slow speed. If I climb in the wagon I can move the rack fairly easily by hand at any point in its travel so I am pretty sure it is a hydraulic issue. I have the operator's mnual but there is no hydraulic schematic in it so I am not sure where to look. I would appreciate any suggestions on what to look for.

If you have a manual, check the adjustment for the control linkage. There's a good chance something is a bit out of whack & the valve to return the rack to home. Other than that, make sure the pulleys for the cable are well oiled & the same goes for the rollers on the rack.

Mike

 

[blueacre]

Thanks for the suggestions - I will have a closer look at those things. The rolling rack seems to move freely but I will lube it some more. I am using the control handle on the right side of the wagon which is connected directly to the rollong rack control valve and I can see the valve spool moving - seems to be opening all the way. I am thinking there may be some interlock in the hydraulics that require the 2nd table or single bale unloading control to be in a specific position for the rolling rack to move normally. If anyone has a service manual for the 1034 and could send me a photo of the hydraulic schematic that would be great.

 

[blueacre]

I spent a couple of hours this morning with the 1034 Bale wagon trying different things. Between the manual and some trial and error I think I have the rolling rack working OK and also figured out how the single bale unload works for the first time. Here is what I came up with - may not be exactly as New Holland planned but it seems to work.

Single Bale Unloading

1. Use the lever on the right side to raise the tines on the top cross bar to allow bales to move forward. This is very important to prevent damage if there is a load of bales. It also releases a stop on the rolling rack control lever to allow full movement of the valve. (see picture)

2. Place the R cotter pin in the rear hole of the rolling rack valve actuator rod under the load deck. It might be in the center hole depending what function was done last. (see picture)

3 Raise the 2nd table until the bar on the yellow pendulum that hangs down lines up with the bar on the underside of the second deck. (see picture). This is the single bale unloading position. Use the locking stop on the 2nd table control rod at the tractor to hold the 2nd table stationary in this position.

4. Move the rolling rack control handle to the rear to move the rolling rack forward. The hydraulic flow will first raise the 2nd table automatically to receive bales. Once the 2nd table stops moving the hydraulic flow is then directed to the rolling rack cylinder and it will move forward. Stop moving the rolling rack after the front tier of bales drops on the second table. When the handle is released the 2nd table will lower automatically to the unloading position and the cross conveyor will run to unload the bales.

Moving Rolling Rack to the Front of an Empty Wagon - I used the same steps as for single bale unloading except you can go all the way forward at one time with no bales on the wagon. The movement can be sped up by increasing tractor rpm

Moving Rolling Rack to Rear of an Empty Wagon

1. Place the R Cotter Pin in the rear hole of the rolling rack valve rod.

2. Raise the 2nd table fully until it stops and the relief valve is relieving - high pitched squeal.

3, Move rolling rack control valve handle forward to move rack to the rear.

4. Increasing tractor rpm with speed up movement.

Stacking & Loading - Place the rolling rack R cotter pin in the center hole of the rolling rack valve rod.

Any comments or suggestions on what I might have gotten wrong or additional steps that I missed based on your experience will be appreciated.