Tie rods for Allis Chalmers D14

[Bill 1952]

The tie rod ends were worn out on my AC D14.
It has standard steering but steered fairly easy with the old tie rods.
I tried two different after market suppliers.
The tie rods I received from both of them make the tractor really difficult to steer.
Are tie rods from an AGCO dealer still available and work any better?
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Bill

 

[Bob Bancroft]

The tie rod ends were worn out on my AC D14.
It has standard steering but steered fairly easy with the old tie rods.
I tried two different after market suppliers.
The tie rods I received from both of them make the tractor really difficult to steer.
Are tie rods from an AGCO dealer still available and work any better?
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Bill

Are they greaseable? The tie rods on my D15II are greaseable. I don't know where they came from. I don't recall that OEM ones were. The only thing I can say is any D series I've experienced without power steering is difficult to steer. This surprised me as I never thought the WD/WD45 steered hard.

 

[DaveBN]

The new tie rod ends must be VERY stiff. Maybe try beating them to liquify the grease or drill and tap a jerk fitting and shoot some new or lighter grease in them. Can you weld a washer to the bottom of the old tie rod ends to push the ball up further into the socket and thus take up some of the slack?
Dave.

 

[Bill 1952]

The new tie rod ends must be VERY stiff. Maybe try beating them to liquify the grease or drill and tap a jerk fitting and shoot some new or lighter grease in them. Can you weld a washer to the bottom of the old tie rod ends to push the ball up further into the socket and thus take up some of the slack?
Dave.

The new tie rods have grease zerks.
Could there be something else causing the problem?

 

[farmersamm]

Did you adjust your toe in when you put the new tie rods on??

 

[rrlund]

I can't see tie rods making it steer harder. There can't be more than a quarter rotation on the tie rod balls going from stop to stop. Did you have anything else apart when you changed them?

 

[T.R.K.]

What wore the old tie rods out? I bet you have some dry spindles or the thrust bearings are shot.

 

[NDIHC]

I can't see tie rods making a tractor steer hard. If it was dry spindles or thrust bearings it should have steered hard before the new tie rods. I would guess toe is not set correctly.

 

[Bill 1952]

Did you adjust your toe in when you put the new tie rods on??

I had someone else do the work. He claimed he set the toe in to AC specs.

 

[Jim.ME]

Are the sockets of the tie rod ends up and setting clear of the steering arms?

If the wrong ends were installed (too small on the taper) the sockets could be pulled down tight on the steering arms. That is about the only way I can see a tie rod end making steering harder.

 

[rrlund]

Are the sockets of the tie rod ends up and setting clear of the steering arms?

If the wrong ends were installed (too small on the taper) the sockets could be pulled down tight on the steering arms. That is about the only way I can see a tie rod end making steering harder.

That's what I was thinking too when I read that somebody else did the work. Somebody else doesn't mean somebody who knew what they were doing.