Ford Funk 6 cylinder

[bschulte]

Hello,

I currently have a locked up 226 flathead inline 6 cylinder ford funk engine in my 8n ford. I bought it that way. I'm curious if anyone would know if I could swap in a 223 cu in 6 cylinder overhead valve engine. Records show they did a 215 cu inch 6 cylinder funk conversion in a limited few of the late model funk conversions. The 223 is in the same family of the 215 and I have one of those readily available in good running condition. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

[KCM]

Nope, the bellhousing bolt patterns are different, as are the starter ring gears. Lengths are different as well. Engines are totally different animals, and lots of differences between Funk kits. Your best bet is to see if you can unstick your current engine, which may or may not be too difficult. Could be stuck pistons, valves, or both. Soak everything with whatever anti-seize juice you prefer and see what you can do. Using a bar to pry on the flywheel ring gear teeth will give you a lot of leverage, and sometimes that is enough to break an engine loose. Other option is to find a 226 out of a pickup or truck. A 254 flathead will probably also fit, but those would be much harder to find. Lots of people pull the old 6 out of pickups to install newer V8 engines when they restore them.

 

[8NChris]

I have a Fred Jones 226 that is .060 over that doesn't have overheating issues. I'll leave it to a Flathead guru how much these engines can take before the cylinder walls get thin.

Bschulte, on stuborn engines a few guys here put the tractor in 4th on ramps or incline and let gravity keep constant mild turning force on the crankshaft while the agents do there job on the piston rings. Worst case you can drill out the pistons in a line, knock out the remnants to colaps the piston. It is time consuming pain to do this way but it works. Here is a 430 I did a while back:

http://ford-mel-engine.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1562

 

[Tom671]

I have a 226 for sale if you need one.

 

[bschulte]

How much and where are you located?

 

[1956 chevy]

price and location would be nice

 

[JLHfunk]

I have a complete 8N tractor with a funk cast iron pan, engine is missing intake and exhaust manifolds but might be rebuildable. Located in NW New Mexico.

 

[Non-farmer]

Located in NW New Mexico.

I am jealous. Can you see Shiprock from your home?

 

[JLHfunk]

I am jealous. Can you see Shiprock from your home?

Have to get on the divide between the Animas and San Juan rivers, Yes.

 

[JLHfunk]

Well. the decision has been made to sell the 8N funk conversion. I have another one that I use with the rail setup, this one is the cast pan one with the 226 engine. Don't know anything about the engine other than it will probably need to be pickled before a rebuild. The funk conversion is complete and it comes with the 8N tractor [do not know the year] Tractor is also complete but will need a lot of work [ie, tires and such]. The only thing missing on the engine is the intake and exhaust manifold. If you have a 8N tractor already, a ton of replacement parts from front to back. Its a do able project for somebody. $1000.00 I'll try to get some pic's together and post later. Located in NW New Mexico.

 

[Jim.ME]

Well. the decision has been made to sell the 8N funk conversion. I have another one that I use with the rail setup, this one is the cast pan one with the 226 engine. Don't know anything about the engine other than it will probably need to be pickled before a rebuild. The funk conversion is complete and it comes with the 8N tractor [do not know the year] Tractor is also complete but will need a lot of work [ie, tires and such]. The only thing missing on the engine is the intake and exhaust manifold. If you have a 8N tractor already, a ton of replacement parts from front to back. Its a do able project for somebody. $1000.00 I'll try to get some pic's together and post later. Located in NW New Mexico.

I suggest you get your info together and put an ad in the classified here found under the Marketplace in the banner above the forum. That way you can discuss with any possible purchaser, without info being on the general forum for all to see. Once you get the ad up, then just post that the ad is in the classifieds.

 

[JLHfunk]

I suggest you get your info together and put an ad in the classified here found under the Marketplace in the banner above the forum. That way you can discuss with any possible purchaser, without info being on the general forum for all to see. Once you get the ad up, then just post that the ad is in the classifieds.

Thanks, new to this.

 

[8NChris]

Sent you a.message through this site.

 

[Tall T]

Hello,

I currently have a locked up 226 flathead inline 6 cylinder ford funk engine in my 8n ford. I bought it that way. I'm curious if anyone would know if I could swap in a 223 cu in 6 cylinder overhead valve engine. Records show they did a 215 cu inch 6 cylinder funk conversion in a limited few of the late model funk conversions. The 223 is in the same family of the 215 and I have one of those readily available in good running condition. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Chrysler had a product in the 80's called "Exhaust Heat Control Valve penetrating fluid".
It was very toxic and cut rust and other corrosion real fast but it needed a nice oil chaser afterwards.
So then I started buying it in quart cans to use for things like stuck pistons. I used it as a bath for small rusty things
and the next day the pieces looked like they'd been glass bead cleaned even without agitation.
Eventually they changed the name to just "Rust Penetrant" in the normal spray cans.

What I always use now is Amsoil MP which is actually an incredible penetrant and obviously INSTANT rust cutter that leaves a nice thin dry oil after the carrier has evaporated. It's important that it is thin and can run down the walls to the rings.

Another product that cuts rust visibly quick is Power Lube by CRC.
It's heavier than Amsoil MP and not as oxidatively stable over time as MP is.

So my choice for stuck rings is MP.
You probably won't try it but if you do you'll see.
All the before and after proof [photos I posted here before are on another computer.
For some reason people refuse to believe that there could be something better than the penetrant they've already settled on.

Terry

 

[Cbauer1533]

Did you ever sell your conversion?