IHC 2-Way Plow? P&O? ID/Info Please

[Wolfpackin]

Another plow I'd like some info on is this IHC.
I've researched a bit and think this is a two way plow?
It has a part number that appears to start with PO, does that mean it is a Parlin & Orendorff?

I appreciate any info.

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[caterpillar guy]

I don't know about your question.But is that not an alternative to a roll over plow. One bottom is lifted to plow one direction then the opposite one is lifted to return back next to the pass before so you could start at one side of the field and end on the opposite side? Just asking. As that is the way I see the thing being much good unless you wanted to plow taters out of the ground.

 

[Jim.ME]

It is a two-way plow. I can't answer your question on the part number or manufacturer.

A two-way plow has a left-hand and a right-hand bottom, like the horse drawn plow in the picture. Plow a furrow with one bottom lifted, get to the end and lift the plowing bottom, turn around and drop the second bottom to plow back along the first furrow. Repeat until the desired area is done, leaving no dead furrow.

A roll over plow works in a similar manual. those are often multiple bottom plows with the hand bottoms not being used carried over the bottoms that are plowing. At the end of the pass the plow is lifted, and the bottoms roll 180 degrees while in the air so that the return pass is along the just plowed furrows. Again, leaving no dead furrow when finished.

I would say this type of two-way plow was the predecessor to the roll over plows. It would seem multiple bottoms, as found on roll over plows, would add extra framing weight and width if built out to three or more sets of left- and right-hand bottoms to make a two-way plow like the horse drawn plow.

 

[Wolfpackin]

Awesome and interesting information.
Thank you!

Does anyone have estimates of years this would have been made?

 

[560Dennis]

I call it a Hillside plow , early after the merger
Check the archives at madison ihc historical society. For more information.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Awesome and interesting information.
Thank you!

Does anyone have estimates of years this would have been made?

IH bought P&O in 1919, so it would have been made after 1919. IH continued to use the P&O part numbers after the merger until they stopped making Little Genius plows in 1962.

Since it is a horse drawn plow, and on steel, it was probably built closer to 1919 than 1962. Probably before the 1940's. There's no way to completely accurately date it.

 

[Wolfpackin]

IH bought P&O in 1919, so it would have been made after 1919. IH continued to use the P&O part numbers after the merger until they stopped making Little Genius plows in 1962.

Since it is a horse drawn plow, and on steel, it was probably built closer to 1919 than 1962. Probably before the 1940's. There's no way to completely accurately date it.

Is the IHC plow I have a Little Genius?

 

[Kevin Happke]

Another plow I'd like some info on is this IHC.
I've researched a bit and think this is a two way plow?
It has a part number that appears to start with PO, does that mean it is a Parlin & Orendorff?

I appreciate any info.
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Please call me at 320-468-6474 and I will get the information you want out of my old dealer catalogs and repairs catalogs, Kevin

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Is the IHC plow I have a Little Genius?

No.

 

[ihkovas]

Here are a couple pics from IHC Farm Operating Catalog No.23

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Here are a couple pics from IHC Farm Operating Catalog No.23

If I could hit the like button multiple times and have it count, I would.

 

[Wolfpackin]

Awesome information!
Thank you so much guys!

Kevin, I was just about to send you a text to get more information but then I saw the post from ihkovas.
Thank you, sirs!

What is the relationship between McCormick Deering/P&O/IH ?

 

[Kevin Happke]

Awesome information!
Thank you so much guys!

Kevin, I was just about to send you a text to get more information but then I saw the post from ihkovas.
Thank you, sirs!

What is the relationship between McCormick Deering/P&O/IH ?

IH-Mccormick Deering bought out P&O and there equipment designs, not sure on the year....

 

[Wolfpackin]

I believe I found 1919 in my research for P&O.

I guess I didn’t know McCormick-Deering was part of IHC, if that’s the case.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

I believe I found 1919 in my research for P&O.

I guess I didn’t know McCormick-Deering was part of IHC, if that’s the case.

International Harvester was the corporation. McCormick-Deering was the brand used on the equipment. We call it all "IH" or "International" for convenience, but if you want to be nit-picky about it, up until the late 1940's everything was branded McCormick-Deering. The Deering was dropped first, in the late 1940's, and everything was branded "McCormick International." McCormick was dropped in 1967 with the introduction of the 56 series tractors.

 

[Wolfpackin]

Thank you for the additional information!

 

[Oliver-Tom]

I know this is an old thread, but I'm new to this forum, so I thought I'd comment anyway. I have a P&O 2 way plow just like this at home. International Harvester bought out P&O in 1919, so if yours has IH markings on it, it was built after that date. Mine is a straight P&O. It is a 2 way, so you didn't have to circle the field to get the plow back in the ground...you just switched directions and put the other plow in. the horse-tail just brought the front of the plow up, and it drafted from the bottom of the plow beams with a sliding draw hook that kept the horses pulling straight ahead of the plow beam that was in the ground. P&O is definitely Parlin and Orindorff. A cool old piece of machinery.

 

[DeltaRed]

I live in an area that uses exclusively two way plows.That one predates the IH #38;#39 two ways,which were tractor plows. I would call that a two way 'sulkey' plow.As for "model number",it's possible it was simply known/marketed/referred to as simply a 'two way' plow.A lot or items in the day never got a model designation. The market would have been fairly limited. The Amish may still use some of these old plows.

 

[Oliver-Tom]

I would like to see one of those in operation. Mine, as well as other stuff I have, is mainly yard art, being as though I don't have operating space or horse power anymore. I like to get as much of it operable as I can, so it could be hitched up and used, or at least look like it could. I just brought a wood horse tail home today off of an old hay wagon that should work good on the P&O. working on that stuff, and old tractors, is SSOO much fun!