high priced diesel & home heating oil prices...

[used red MN]

And zero wrong with public transit

Maybe if it is well thought out with legitimate proven studies that say it will be viable in the long term. Here in good ole MN more specifically the NW twin cities metro they came up with the Northstar commuter system. One thing reasonable about it was that it utilized existing train track for regular shipping. They built up fancy stations and each has a large apartment complex at it to house “commuter workers.”(There are 3 of these that I know of) I think they opened the line in 2023, now as of Jan. 2026 they discontinued it. I heard that the daily round trip fare that I suspect to be around $10 was actually requiring an $160 tax payer subsidy. I have no facts to back up that last sentence but one doesn’t have to look at the whole project very long to see where that might be true.(Edit: The number of riders was way below projected. In part due to another “created crisis” the-vid) I think for a while all those commuters had to find a way to their jobs on their own for a while, but they have since set up metro bus service for them.

 

[buickanddeere]

Randy, Sounds like Tampon Tim is the answer to all our problems.....

And” Word Salad” as top dog

 

[buickanddeere]

Maybe if it is well thought out with legitimate proven studies that say it will be viable in the long term. Here in good ole MN more specifically the NW twin cities metro they came up with the Northstar commuter system. One thing reasonable about it was that it utilized existing train track for regular shipping. They built up fancy stations and each has a large apartment complex at it to house “commuter workers.”(There are 3 of these that I know of) I think they opened the line in 2023, now as of Jan. 2026 they discontinued it. I heard that the daily round trip fare that I suspect to be around $10 was actually requiring an $160 tax payer subsidy. I have no facts to back up that last sentence but one doesn’t have to look at the whole project very long to see where that might be true. I think for a while all those commuters had to find a way to their jobs on there own for a while, but they have since set up metro bus service for them.

Ideology was more important than facts

 

[Dick L]

also it was them, the current w house occupants that started this debacle in persia... they learned nothing of these people there, they will not be pushed around by anyone...

Do you think the prices will still be this high after Pickax Mountain is reconfigured?

 

[moresmoke]

Station across street is chevron gas station. Has diesel. Their price was $5:99. Loves cash price was $6:14.

My discounted price at that Love’s would be $5.43.

 

[NDIHC]

We haven't met the highest, adjusted for inflation diesel prices, which occurred during the financial crisis of 2008 and then in 2022.

 

[NDIHC]

In the mid 70s my dad bought a 53 Chevy 4 door for, I think, $35. It was a hippie car that was brush painted pink and had a bunch of slogans and peace symbols painted on it. I remember one thing that was painted on the gas door..."Life is a gas, 35 cents a gallon". Assuming that was painted in the late 60s, around 1968 (in 1968 the average price if gas was $.34), 35 cents a gallon equates to about $3.36 per gallon today. So yes, we are paying more now. When I filled last time it was $3.94/gallon. So about 58 cents a gallon more now compared to 1968. When you figure in all of the environmental improvements and mandates introduced today compared to 1968 we are probably not paying much, if any, more than they did in 1968.

 

[NY 986]

In the mid 70s my dad bought a 53 Chevy 4 door for, I think, $35. It was a hippie car that was brush painted pink and had a bunch of slogans and peace symbols painted on it. I remember one thing that was painted on the gas door..."Life is a gas, 35 cents a gallon". Assuming that was painted in the late 60s, around 1968 (in 1968 the average price if gas was $.34), 35 cents a gallon equates to about $3.36 per gallon today. So yes, we are paying more now. When I filled last time it was $3.94/gallon. So about 58 cents a gallon more now compared to 1968. When you figure in all of the environmental improvements and mandates introduced today compared to 1968 we are probably not paying much, if any, more than they did in 1968.

On a somewhat related note I watched an episode of Gomer Pyle USMC yesterday and the plot revolved around a used car. Anyways, Gomer and the Sarge stop for gas and the price per gallon was 32 cents. The episode was from early 1968. Most likely reflected pricing on the West Coast so I don't know how much the Midwest differed from that. Going through some of my parent's stuff and hoping to find receipts from that time period. I remember around the same time as a young kid going with mom to shop for groceries. I remember mom passing up the Campbell's tomato soup that week as it was 5 cents per can. She had said normally it was on special for 4 cents per can. I wish I could buy a can of soup for 5 cents today.

 

[buickanddeere]

I guess he wants you to drive an electric car. No wait, that was the other guy.

The other guy had no idea even what day it was . The idea to force EV’s onto the public via high fuel prices .Plan was made by the auto pen operators who also executive ordered dozens of other directives . Without the president even being aware of the orders .

 

[ss55]

Do you think the prices will still be this high after Pickax Mountain is reconfigured?

Probably yes, into 2029.

 

[GChief]

Probably yes, into 2029.

Its looking like we will be getting checks and balances back after Jan 3rd