Update to "Guess what I was trying to do "..........Fire

[Fred Werring]

Glad you safely got the fire out... bummer on the hay lost to rain.

That is the quintessential pic of a little country boy. Great photo!

Have no grandkids of my own, only grandpuppies.
Young family bought next door, 3 kids 6 years old and down and another on the way. My surrogate grandkids.
They like to help me feeding, we all squeeze in the front seat of my Polaris and go. Axel is totally ate up with tractors and livestock.
The dad was telling me about a conversation he had with Axel

Axel: We're having another baby, right?
Dad: That's right
Axel: Well, Fred's gonna need a bigger Polaris so we can all ride

We thought it was funny

 

[SweetFeet]

Have no grandkids of my own, only grandpuppies.
Young family bought next door, 3 kids 6 years old and down and another on the way. My surrogate grandkids.
They like to help me feeding, we all squeeze in the front seat of my Polaris and go. Axel is totally ate up with tractors and livestock.
The dad was telling me about a conversation he had with Axel

Axel: We're having another baby, right?
Dad: That's right
Axel: Well, Fred's gonna need a bigger Polaris so we can all ride

We thought it was funny

Oh, that is funny. Smart little boy.

 

[Texasmark]

And that’s why I keep insurance on the baler and the tractor that runs the baler. I figure if the baler takes fire I would probably just pull the draw pin and drive away. Several guys I know have had balers catch fire. And try to put the fire out but couldn’t. And by that point the ground underneath the baler was on fire and it had gotten so hot that they couldn’t unhook the tractor and watched the whole thing go up in smoke

No doubt, a baler fire isn't something you ever want to experience. Along the lines of your post, my fire extinguisher is on the left front of my baler where JD put the bracket, like everybody else's I'd assume. Depending on the location of the fire, getting to it could be a problem.

 

[showcrop]

Years ago I started a fire while mowing a field on town property that I was making the hay to give to an elderly lady for her stock. The fire started way at one end, on my first pass, where I had to work around edge obstacles. By the time I got to the end and turned around and saw it, it was really going good. It would have been pretty bad if I hadn't had my fire department portable radio with me and was able to call dispatch.

 

[SkipperII]

This was the mowed hay that got an inch of rain dumped on it Thursday night.
After tedding yesterday (Sat), the hay was thin enough it dried out quick, was gonna do to bale.

I started to rake, neighbor volunteered to rake, trying to beat the rain that was due to roll in around 7.

His 6 year old son was riding with me baling, I'm looking back, said 'hey, that looks more like smoke than dust', then saw the flames.
Pulled out of the windrow while ejecting the bale, got in the clear, got out and told Axel to get away.
Luckily it wasn't a big fire, my 2 gallon garden sprayer and I put it out.

It was a bearing, of course. And when I had checked them with the infrared/laser thermometer after the last I baled this spring,
it did not show hot.

Oh well. Axel thought it was exciting.
He rode back with me, and told me the heifers looked hungry, so they got extra feed.
Axel really enjoys my tractors and cows, can you tell?

And we got another 1/2" rain on that hay last night. Think it's done, time to head out with the tedder and just scatter it out.

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. The two gallon sprayer is a pretty good idea. Dry chem extinguishers are pretty much worthless on that type of fire. A little bit of dish soap will actually increase the effiency a little bit. Prior to putting a pressure tank system in my chiefs pick up, I carried a three gallon pressure water and foam extinguisher, as well as a back pack with a hand pump sprayer, with dish soap, For grass and bark fires, it worked great.

 

[Jim in LA]

In my area right now if a fire got started good chance it would burn many acres of land before they could stop it. Last fire I heard of burned 10 plus acres before they got it under control

We have been under severe fire conditions for about seven weeks. Parish enacted a toothless burn ban, exempting the burning of crop stubble as if burning corn husks can't be carried long distances by wind. A neighbor's house burned one day and it may have been caused by a tossed cigarette in the road ditch in front of the hose. No one was home and the lawn was dead tall weeds and grass. I walked outside and saw the smoke but thought it was the corn field next to his property but it was his place burning up. Fireman said they couldn't determine if the house caught or the grass as the house was totalled by the time they got there. Wind is out of the Northwest at 5-8 mph today and low humidity 94 deg. Careless homeowner started a fire Thursday, Parish fire dozers and equipment were out of sevice. Fortunately the fire burned into a slough and stopped. Brother forgot to wet the gras surrounding the charcoal grill Sat. and one coal fell out and immediately started the grass on fire but he got water on it and it only burned a 10 inch circle. We got aover an inch of rain a week ago today but it wasn't enouugh with daily highs 98-100. I have firebreak around the house and the 2 bottom plow on the big tractor.

 

[Fred Werring]

. The two gallon sprayer is a pretty good idea. Dry chem extinguishers are pretty much worthless on that type of fire. A little bit of dish soap will actually increase the effiency a little bit. Prior to putting a pressure tank system in my chiefs pick up, I carried a three gallon pressure water and foam extinguisher, as well as a back pack with a hand pump sprayer, with dish soap, For grass and bark fires, it worked great.

Never really knew if it would help, but I do put a good squeeze of dish detergent in with the water. Figured it would help the water spread out over oily stuff rather than bead up. And those old chain balers have lots of oily stuff.

 

[Texasmark]

Never really knew if it would help, but I do put a good squeeze of dish detergent in with the water. Figured it would help the water spread out over oily stuff rather than bead up. And those old chain balers have lots of oily stuff.

I read that airport fire equipment uses soap in their water. I don't know the contents of the "foam" that they use. I have seen one fire on a runway....707 type aircraft had to land with the nose landing gear UP! Fire trucks were right there and foamed the thing and all was well. Only damage was to the doors since they were open when the nose touched the runway.

 

[Dick L]

This was the mowed hay that got an inch of rain dumped on it Thursday night.
After tedding yesterday (Sat), the hay was thin enough it dried out quick, was gonna do to bale.

I started to rake, neighbor volunteered to rake, trying to beat the rain that was due to roll in around 7.

His 6 year old son was riding with me baling, I'm looking back, said 'hey, that looks more like smoke than dust', then saw the flames.
Pulled out of the windrow while ejecting the bale, got in the clear, got out and told Axel to get away.
Luckily it wasn't a big fire, my 2 gallon garden sprayer and I put it out.

It was a bearing, of course. And when I had checked them with the infrared/laser thermometer after the last I baled this spring,
it did not show hot.

Oh well. Axel thought it was exciting.
He rode back with me, and told me the heifers looked hungry, so they got extra feed.
Axel really enjoys my tractors and cows, can you tell?

And we got another 1/2" rain on that hay last night. Think it's done, time to head out with the tedder and just scatter it out.

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Glad you had a sharp rider.

 

[showcrop]

I read that airport fire equipment uses soap in their water. I don't know the contents of the "foam" that they use. I have seen one fire on a runway....707 type aircraft had to land with the nose landing gear UP! Fire trucks were right there and foamed the thing and all was well. Only damage was to the doors since they were open when the nose touched the runway.

I was a firefighter for 43 years. From nearly the beginning of that time, the fire service has used foam of various types. Initially it was high expansion foam (big bubbles) for exclusion of air. Later we got AFFF, which stands for Aqueous Film Forming Foam. That was applied through a regular firefighting nozzle with an add-on extension. Then it evolved to more of a penetration function, applied through the standard nozzle, on virtually every fire at a rate of 1-2%. During firefighting operations it is obvious what a difference it makes. Nearly all trucks are plumbed for foam and it goes to virtually any line when selected by pushing a couple buttons on the panel. Twenty or so years ago formulations changed to eliminate PFASs. Yes, as Skipper and Fred pointed out, even a little dish soap makes a huge difference. I have some in my own can. (2.5 gal. air pressurized water extinguisher)

 

[urbancase]

I was a firefighter for 43 years. From nearly the beginning of that time, the fire service has used foam of various types. Initially it was high expansion foam (big bubbles) for exclusion of air. Later we got AFFF, which stands for Aqueous Film Forming Foam. That was applied through a regular firefighting nozzle with an add-on extension. Then it evolved to more of a penetration function, applied through the standard nozzle, on virtually every fire at a rate of 1-2%. During firefighting operations it is obvious what a difference it makes. Nearly all trucks are plumbed for foam and it goes to virtually any line when selected by pushing a couple buttons on the panel. Twenty or so years ago formulations changed to eliminate PFASs. Yes, as Skipper and Fred pointed out, even a little dish soap makes a huge difference. I have some in my own can. (2.5 gal. air pressurized water extinguisher)

yes i used a product for different things, i do not think its available anymore called "water wetter" it reduced the surface tension of the water so it spread better. i used this at the shop and tried in field spraying and it didn't make a difference in spraying crops but help with a water soluble oil we used for a few jobs in stamping.

 

[Fred Werring]

Glad you had a sharp rider.

Axel decided his job is to keep an eye on the bale indicator, let me know when it's full.
I may keep an eye out in a mirror just in case he gets distracted.
He's also startled the crap out of me...be going along, and he'll yell DEER!!! and got my heart thumping pretty good

He's also decided we need sound effects when ejecting a bale. Beeps, honks, siren noises. Entertaining to have ride along.

 

[SkipperII]

Never really knew if it would help, but I do put a good squeeze of dish detergent in with the water. Figured it would help the water spread out over oily stuff rather than bead up. And those old chain balers have lots of oily stuff.

It breaks the surface tension of the water, and allows it to penetrate better.

 

[Texasmark]

yes i used a product for different things, i do not think its available anymore called "water wetter" it reduced the surface tension of the water so it spread better. i used this at the shop and tried in field spraying and it didn't make a difference in spraying crops but help with a water soluble oil we used for a few jobs in stamping.

I am not a sprayer but on a few occasions it became necessary. I learned that herbicides do a much better job if you relax the surface tension (or whatever you call it) on leaves so that they can absorb the herbicide better. Hands down, surfectants are worth their weight.....proved it more than once.....and think it's only soap and water.....of a sort.