I like this.

[rustred]

Not have to lay on your back while working! Was gonna say something else but put that on the shelf. Lol. Just stand up and torque the rods. Got pistons in and heads on today.

 

[showcrop]

Not have to lay on your back while working! Was gonna say something else but put that on the shelf. Lol. Just stand up and torque the rods. Got pistons in and heads on today.

I think that I would be sitting on my rolling stool.

 

[Powered By IH]

Not have to lay on your back while working! Just stand up and torque the rods.

If you flip the tractor over it makes it easier, the same goes for changing an oil pan.

Just kidding, who ever said working on tractors was easy? LOL
If it was easy everybody would be doing it.

 

[rustred]

If you flip the tractor over it makes it easier, the same goes for changing an oil pan.

Just kidding, who ever said working on tractors was easy? LOL
If it was easy everybody would be doing it.

think you guys missed my point. m. m. oil pan is on the side. just stand there and work on the rods and cam instead of laying under an engine. ill take tractor work any day before vehicle work. the things is not many have the training to do a proper job.

 

[Keith True]

I've seen some industrial engines like that.Fairbanks-Morse comes to mind for some reason.I went to look at something for sale years ago,and in the guys yard was an International shovel dozer on it's side.I thought it was flopped over being stripped or scrapped,but saw the guys were pressing new cylinder sleeves in it.They said they would do the cylinders and crank bearings,install the oil pan and the belly pan.Then flop it back down to install the head.They told me that airborne dust was non-existant,ant it was much easier than trying to lay under the machine in knee deep snow.

 

[KCTractors]

Not have to lay on your back while working! Was gonna say something else but put that on the shelf. Lol. Just stand up and torque the rods. Got pistons in and heads on today.

Looks like it is a Moline 602, Am I right!

 

[tom upton]

Not have to lay on your back while working! Was gonna say something else but put that on the shelf. Lol. Just stand up and torque the rods. Got pistons in and heads on today.

Is that a copper head gasket? I have a custom one coming for an engine I am putting together and am getting conflicting info on what I should coat gasket with? Some say nothing. Some say copper coat. Some say hi tack. Some say high temp silocone around coolant passages with nothing or maybe silocone around coolant passages with hi tac sprayed on whole gasket after that?? To say the least I am confused as to what to put on copper head gasket. I know you have oddles of experience engine building so hoping I could get your and others that have copper head gasket experience advice. Engine is a gas Oliver 310 with 4 1/4 inch bore. Copper gasket will be .060 thick with no fire rings. Head has been ground flat and block is decked as well. I have also heard two differing opinions on re-tourqing copper head gaskets. some say after run in re-tourque Hot, some say wait till it cools down??

 

[Tony in SD]

I grew up with MM. There were easy to work on with the split blocks and heads. But on a 6 cylinder diesel the crank shaft was a mile long.

 

[rustred]

Looks like it is a Moline 602, Am I right!

jet star 3 .

 

[Powered By IH]

think you guys missed my point. m. m. oil pan is on the side. just stand there and work on the rods and cam instead of laying under an engine. ill take tractor work any day before vehicle work. the things is not many have the training to do a proper job.

Sorry. When I made my comment, I was referencing other tractors like an IH 560 or 660, not your MM. I fully agree it is nicer to put rods in an engine with a side cover like that, less work that way.
I guess my joke got lost in context, my bad.

It looks like the main bearings are torqued from the side also?
How do you get the crank out?
Never worked on a MM before.

 

[rustred]

Is that a copper head gasket? I have a custom one coming for an engine I am putting together and am getting conflicting info on what I should coat gasket with? Some say nothing. Some say copper coat. Some say hi tack. Some say high temp silocone around coolant passages with nothing or maybe silocone around coolant passages with hi tac sprayed on whole gasket after that?? To say the least I am confused as to what to put on copper head gasket. I know you have oddles of experience engine building so hoping I could get your and others that have copper head gasket experience advice. Engine is a gas Oliver 310 with 4 1/4 inch bore. Copper gasket will be .060 thick with no fire rings. Head has been ground flat and block is decked as well. I have also heard two differing opinions on re-tourqing copper head gaskets. some say after run in re-tourque Hot, some say wait till it cools down??

Yes these head gaskets have a copper side and a metal side with the material sandwiched in-between. Copper side up. I sprayed them with high tack. Technically nothing is needed on a fresh machined surface. I had these heads planned .008 plus there is a procedure to get the blocks and heads in alignment. You set the blocks on in a pair because of the water passage inbetween them. Leave the mounting bolts loose and install pistons , then crank the engine over and check the alignment with a straight edge. They can be bumped a bit with a rubber hammer to fine tune alignment. Then tighten bolts. Same deal with the heads. They need to go on in a pair with the same coolant passage in between them. Plus lined up the same way. It’s recommended to bolt the manifold on first also. I am gonna weld a crank in the manifold and then get it resurfaced before installing it. Then u install the tappets and camshaft and time it. This is the first m m with a side crankcase cover I have overhauled. It is going good. Something different to work on , kinda neet. Had the whole front off to remove the governor and replace a broken fork. Plus replace front seal. I have overhauled them big Minnie’s also like the 705 706 massy 97 all have the same 504 engine.

 

[rustred]

Sorry. When I made my comment, I was referencing other tractors like an IH 560 or 660, not your MM. I fully agree it is nicer to put rods in an engine with a side cover like that, less work that way.
I guess my joke got lost in context, my bad.

It looks like the main bearings are torqued from the side also?
How do you get the crank out?
Never worked on a MM before.

Yes mains torqued from the side also. The crank has to be slide out the back of engine. Im not prejudgist i but have all colours, Case , Oliver, Cockshutt Minnie, Massey , and John Deere besides the red ones. Took a life time to collect.