Need a source for small engine valves

[710ltd2002]

Does anyone have a source for small engine valves? This is a Viper engine on an Earthquake tiller. I’ve been searching, clicking, and scrolling, but I haven’t found a pair in the right dimensions. Earthquake’s “repair parts partner company” doesn’t offer them.

I’m hoping for a phone number I can call and just tell a person what I need.
Dave

 

[used red MN]

Call 1-800-YOC-HINA Ha Ha
Never looked up parts for one of these before, took me about 3 minutes, if you would have had your tiller model number on here I could have told you if they had them in stock.
Parts Warehouse The linked company’s contact info shows them to be in Texas. Ardisam appears to be the engine brand, made in China I’m certain.
Edit.. foot in mouth engine valves not shown, at least not in the couple of models I chose to look at. Maybe the phone number will be helpful, but doubtful. I wonder if they copied Harbor Freight’s Predator engines, maybe those would fit. Seems you can get just about any part for those engines.

 

[Butch(OH)]

Call 1-800-YOC-HINA Ha Ha
Never looked up parts for one of these before, took me about 3 minutes, if you would have had your tiller model number on here I could have told you if they had them in stock.
Parts Warehouse The linked company’s contact info shows them to be in Texas. Ardisam appears to be the engine brand, made in China I’m certain.
Edit.. foot in mouth engine valves not shown, at least not in the couple of models I chose to look at. Maybe the phone number will be helpful, but doubtful. I wonder if they copied Harbor Freight’s Predator engines, maybe those would fit. Seems you can get just about any part for those engines.

Be very careful with all the on line "parts companies" that are popping up. The vast bulk of them show everything in stock but the reality is they stock nothing and do not know of the parts are available for not. While I have nothing against flipping parts to make a buck, I will not send money to any of them until I send them an email asking if a specific part is actually in stock or not. For parts you know are hard to find or obsolete you will find they either do not respond, or they will say temporary out of stock. Be careful out there.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

This your tiller?
https://www.northerntool.com/produc...engine-displacement-79-cc-model-24734-5938903

Worst case you can get an entire new engine from Harbor Freight for $120. You can get an entire head for the 79cc for $30 off ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134669236216

All I did was search for "79cc cylinder head" and found tons of options. The Chinese Honda GX clones like the Predator and "Viper" are all made from the same drawings.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Be very careful with all the on line "parts companies" that are popping up. The vast bulk of them show everything in stock but the reality is they stock nothing and do not know of the parts are available for not. While I have nothing against flipping parts to make a buck, I will not send money to any of them until I send them an email asking if a specific part is actually in stock or not. For parts you know are hard to find or obsolete you will find they either do not respond, or they will say temporary out of stock. Be careful out there.

It's called "drop shipping" and it's not a new practice.

 

[timcasbolt]

Barnyard, you've outdone yourself on that one.

 

[Watthour]

The complete Loncin engine family is cloned from Honda. They are so confident that those Chinese engines will run forever that they don't even offer oversized pistons and rings as replacement parts.

If that doesn't tell you anything about what the intended repair procedure is for one of those, it should . A guy could make a lot of useful beverage cans from all that scrap aluminum.

 

[1948CaseVAI]

It's called "drop shipping" and it's not a new practice.

Nor is there anything wrong with it. Like all businesses it must be run by honest folks or it is a problem, just like in a brick and mortar store.

 

[Barts Dad]

Genuine Replacement Parts at Replacement Parts.com. Great source for everything from lawn and garden, appliance, and power tool parts.

 

[Fritz Maurer]

The complete Loncin engine family is cloned from Honda. They are so confident that those Chinese engines will run forever that they don't even offer oversized pistons and rings as replacement parts.

If that doesn't tell you anything about what the intended repair procedure is for one of those, it should . A guy could make a lot of useful beverage cans from all that scrap aluminum.

Lack of overbore kits doesn’t mean anything. Maybe it has a Nickasil bore. All kinds of engines down through the decades have not offered oversize pistons. McCulloch, Johnson, Homelite all had chrome bores at one time or another.

 

[Butch(OH)]

It's called "drop shipping" and it's not a new practice.

I thought I was on your ignore list?

Never said it was new, and didn't say it was wrong either. Problem is a lot of the part flippers will show "in stock" but nobody has it. They still take your money and say it's on back order. Person can get his money back but for all the hassle it's just easier to ask before hand and not send money for items they can't sell because there isn't any available. Case in point I've been looking for a seal kit for a Wheelhorse hydro for a over a year. Punch the part number in any search and 25 parts places show "in stock" but not a one of them can deliver it. Jack's Small Engines, my preferred supplier sent me an email when I inquired,, stock expected end of June

 

[710ltd2002]

Thanks for the input. This gives me ideas of where to look. And yes, Barnyard, that link looks like the tiller.
Dave

 

[T.R.K.]

I am betting there is a model and serial number on the lower front of the engine block. I am thinking that if you Google the first 6, 7, or 8 digits of that number looking for parts, I think you will find some. that is how I found parts for a Predator engine and also an engine on a MiTM generator once.

 

[T.R.K.]

Another thing: Keep in mind the replacement cost of a Predator engine. You don't want to spend much over half the cost of a new engine trying to repair your old one.

 

[Mule Meat]

Ardisam engine.

Click here. Ardisam Engine Parts

Can't say if they have what you need.

 

[710ltd2002]

Searching model number takes you to Ardisam, their “partner parts supplier “. They don’t offer valves. I have a number for a Honda supplier. Will call them tomorrow.
Dave

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Searching model number takes you to Ardisam, their “partner parts supplier “. They don’t offer valves. I have a number for a Honda supplier. Will call them tomorrow.
Dave

The head I linked is for an "Ardisam" 79cc engine. $30 shipped to your door. Honda valves are going to cost you that much once you pay shipping.

Does Honda make a 79cc "GX" engine? I think that may be something the cloners came up with by scaling the CAD drawings down.

 

[710ltd2002]

Thank you Barnyard. I’m going to revisit your link. I went to a Honda supplier yesterday and couldn’t get anywhere. I’m not complaining about them because it’s just the way it is these days. They needed a part number or proper Honda model number to look things up. No way to put in dimensions and search for a match. No comprehensive chart listing available sizes…….They didn’t have the possible valve on hand either, or else I would have walked it over to service and borrowed calipers to verify. Oh yeah, the parts blow up in their computer apparently doesn’t list the measurements either. Or maybe they didn’t know how to find that info, since probably no one ever asks. Their price is about $15, which I thought was pretty fair.

Ok. Back to the drawing board.
Dave