Roh roh not good

[jon f mn]

Turned too short with the corn picker and the tractor tire caught the snoot, made a big mess, including breaking the roller.

Pulled the snoot and roller off to assess the situation.

Started with the roller, cast iron of course. First I found a piece of pipe that fit tight inside. I could only get about 4" in on either side before inside structure, but that worked well.

Once it was together I ground a V on opposite sides to weld alternating sides to help prevent pulling.

Once that was welded I ground a v in the rest to get full welds all the way around. I used Nomacast rod for this because it works better with this type of cast. I does leave an uglier weld tho, but when done it was nice and straight. A video of rolling on the floor to check for straight.

Roller repair

rumble.com

Next was the snoot, started with this.

A little time with a 6x6 block of wood and a couple hammers and it looks pretty decent.

It was at this point that I figured out the main frame of the picker was also bent. That took the longest, lots of time with a high lift jack and com-a-long and I got it all together. I'll have to bring it back in and do some more work on the frame because the rollers are not tight enough yet and won't pull the stalks through like it should. That will have to be Saturday.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Turned too short with the corn picker and the tractor tire caught the snoot, made a big mess, including breaking the roller.

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Pulled the snoot and roller off to assess the situation.

View attachment 91662View attachment 91663

Started with the roller, cast iron of course. First I found a piece of pipe that fit tight inside. I could only get about 4" in on either side before inside structure, but that worked well.

View attachment 91664

Once it was together I ground a V on opposite sides to weld alternating sides to help prevent pulling.

View attachment 91665

Once that was welded I ground a v in the rest to get full welds all the way around. I used Nomacast rod for this because it works better with this type of cast. I does leave an uglier weld tho, but when done it was nice and straight. A video of rolling on the floor to check for straight.

Roller repair

rumble.com

Next was the snoot, started with this.

View attachment 91671

A little time with a 6x6 block of wood and a couple hammers and it looks pretty decent.

View attachment 91673

It was at this point that I figured out the main frame of the picker was also bent. That took the longest, lots of time with a high lift jack and com-a-long and I got it all together. I'll have to bring it back in and do some more work on the frame because the rollers are not tight enough yet and won't pull the stalks through like it should. That will have to be Saturday.

Like it never even happened!

 

[Mac AR]

Man, great job on the repairs. You're a lot braver than I am welding that cast, but I suppose you can't exactly find snapping rolls for those old pickers on every corner. Turned out really well, and I hope it works good for you.

Mac

 

[stevieb49829]

Turned too short with the corn picker and the tractor tire caught the snoot, made a big mess, including breaking the roller.

View attachment 91656

Pulled the snoot and roller off to assess the situation.

View attachment 91662View attachment 91663

Started with the roller, cast iron of course. First I found a piece of pipe that fit tight inside. I could only get about 4" in on either side before inside structure, but that worked well.

View attachment 91664

Once it was together I ground a V on opposite sides to weld alternating sides to help prevent pulling.

View attachment 91665

Once that was welded I ground a v in the rest to get full welds all the way around. I used Nomacast rod for this because it works better with this type of cast. I does leave an uglier weld tho, but when done it was nice and straight. A video of rolling on the floor to check for straight.

Roller repair

rumble.com

Next was the snoot, started with this.

View attachment 91671

A little time with a 6x6 block of wood and a couple hammers and it looks pretty decent.

View attachment 91673

It was at this point that I figured out the main frame of the picker was also bent. That took the longest, lots of time with a high lift jack and com-a-long and I got it all together. I'll have to bring it back in and do some more work on the frame because the rollers are not tight enough yet and won't pull the stalks through like it should. That will have to be Saturday.

Jon, that roller looks almost like it is cast steel. I'm not sure they would even make something like that out of cast iron, especially being partially hollow. I'm getting ready to use some Nomacast on a Continental timing cover, and my experimenting worked OK on a cast bellhousing ear. Hopefully it'll work as good as your repair. Nice job. Did you say some bad words? steve

 

[dick1234]

Turned too short with the corn picker and the tractor tire caught the snoot, made a big mess, including breaking the roller.

View attachment 91656

Pulled the snoot and roller off to assess the situation.

View attachment 91662View attachment 91663

Started with the roller, cast iron of course. First I found a piece of pipe that fit tight inside. I could only get about 4" in on either side before inside structure, but that worked well.

View attachment 91664

Once it was together I ground a V on opposite sides to weld alternating sides to help prevent pulling.

View attachment 91665

Once that was welded I ground a v in the rest to get full welds all the way around. I used Nomacast rod for this because it works better with this type of cast. I does leave an uglier weld tho, but when done it was nice and straight. A video of rolling on the floor to check for straight.

Roller repair

rumble.com

Next was the snoot, started with this.

View attachment 91671

A little time with a 6x6 block of wood and a couple hammers and it looks pretty decent.

View attachment 91673

It was at this point that I figured out the main frame of the picker was also bent. That took the longest, lots of time with a high lift jack and com-a-long and I got it all together. I'll have to bring it back in and do some more work on the frame because the rollers are not tight enough yet and won't pull the stalks through like it should. That will have to be Saturday.

 

[dick1234]

Learned your lesson the hard way, just like I did. Only I did it twice, two days later. I was lucky enough to not break the roller. Good Luck and BE CAREFUL.

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

Great job on the repairs! Hope that roller holds up for you.

Mike

 

[wh]

Second the notion it is cast steel. Either way good repair.

 

[jon f mn]

Jon, that roller looks almost like it is cast steel. I'm not sure they would even make something like that out of cast iron, especially being partially hollow. I'm getting ready to use some Nomacast on a Continental timing cover, and my experimenting worked OK on a cast bellhousing ear. Hopefully it'll work as good as your repair. Nice job. Did you say some bad words? steve

Can't be cast steel because that is flexible. Can't have flex in rollers like this.

 

[JMOR]

Very nice recovery. Congrats!

 

[tomturkey]

If I break it, I can probably fix it......that could be Jon f. mn claim to fame. from roll-off dumpsters to broken cornpickers he can fix just about anything. jmho gobble

 

[Tony in SD]

Nice job on the repair. If you are interested, I have a 2 row New Idea corn picker for sale that I’m not using anymore.

 

[Rich'sToys]

Nice job on the repairs!
The extra weld on the roller might make it grab even better than before.

 

[montidale]

Jon, that roller looks almost like it is cast steel. I'm not sure they would even make something like that out of cast iron, especially being partially hollow. I'm getting ready to use some Nomacast on a Continental timing cover, and my experimenting worked OK on a cast bellhousing ear. Hopefully it'll work as good as your repair. Nice job. Did you say some bad words? steve

Nomacast? Is that a special kind of welding rod?

 

[J Wendt]

Grampa did that with the Case chopper and 400, chopper won, tire not so much.

 

[jon f mn]

Nomacast? Is that a special kind of welding rod?

Not special but for cast. Actually cheaper than nickle and woks well for lower quality cast and for where you don't need to machine.

 

[chcase]

Not special but for cast. Actually cheaper than nickle and woks well for lower quality cast and for where you don't need to machine.

Jon, happy you have a good understanding of the different welding rods out there. The correct rod kept dry will always make the job go alot nicer and better end result. I have a small understanding but was spoiled for alot of years as my dad was a professional stick welder his own adult life. For me it was always easier to have him do it right the first time. Now wish I would of paid more attention.

 

[Jeff in ND]

Good job on the repair of that Case!

Reminds me of the time when Dad was combining corn with the Deere 45 along some old rail bed that was sold back to the farmers. Lots of junk turned up for a few years. Ground was uneven and he found a pc of culvert pipe right when the wheel dropped so the snoot tip jammed into the end of the pipe and bent it up much like what happened to you. I remember grinding the rivets off the sheet metal to separate the angle iron frame so each could be worked on separately. Had to cut slots in the angle iron to bent it back straight and then weld it up. At least it was only that damaged and not the moving parts farther back.