Dipstick location on a 9N?

[vidkid]

Hi all, new to the forum. I just purchased a 1940 9N to start restoring. I was wondering if this is where the dipstick is suppose to be to check the fluid level? looks like it is blocked/capped, don't know if this is correct. Also, the grill says "Ferguson System"... is this correct for a Ford 9N? Thanks!!

 

[BobTx]

Congratulations on your new tractor and welcome to YT. I am no expert and more knowledgeable than me will be along later. In your second picture the up turned elbow is in the original tap to check hydraulic pump pressure. Somebody has tapped it to run a remote and the pipe plug in the side of the transmission was for the return line. Your dipstick should be in the round inspection cover on the right side in front of the right axle beside the brake pedal. Engine dipstick will be on the lower left side of the engine. Don't believe them if they tell you the dipstick is the guy behind the steering wheel. LOL Couldn't resist that one. BobTx

 

[R Geiger]

I do not see a dip stick in the r/h round plate. In that case the lowest bolt in that plate will give you the correct level

 

[Dan]

Early 9Ns had the hydraulic dip stick next to the shifter on top of the shift plate.

 

[Jim L WA]

Hi vidkid, welcome to the forum. To answer your question about the grill, yes the Ferguson system emblem is correct.
If you're going to really get into this restoration, you should look for some manuals for it. The I&T FO-4 shop manual is almost a must along with a copy of an owners manual. You can find them on this site.
Also do a search on John Smith Ford Tractor. His web site has a lot of historical information and how to's
But don't be discouraged to ask questions on here.

 

[Mad Farmer]

Early 9Ns had the hydraulic dip stick next to the shifter on top of the shift plate.

Never seen that? Got a photo?

 

[Dan]

Never seen that? Got a photo?

Never seen that? Got a photo?

Not mine, but here is one. On the left side next to the bolt:

https://imgur.com/xNHKHLh

 

[Mad Farmer]

Not mine, but here is one. On the left side next to the bolt:

https://imgur.com/xNHKHLh

Thanks, never seen an N like that one

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Dipstick on the 1940 9n will be on the shifter cover. Dan posted a photo of my 1940 for location. The big plug on the right side of the trans was also use for fluid level on some ‘39’s. If your shifter cover has been replaced just use the lowest bolt on the round cover on center housing. I would not use the big square plug cause when not used they get rusted in place and I’ve heard of people snapping them and cracking the tranny housing

 

[John,PA]

On my 9N the engine dipstick was on the left side on the lower block. The tranny and differential dipstick was as you say. Also if the rear axels start leaking, use the 7 O'clock position bolt removal and let some oil escape. HTH

 

[Mad Farmer]

Hmmm ...mine is a 1940 but has the dipstick on the side cover.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Hmmm ...mine is a 1940 but has the dipstick on the side cover.

It’s likely that yours was changed out, not uncommon one of my ‘39’s has the side round cover dipstick. My 1940 that Dan posted was bought from original owner. The serial number 31,798. The trans cover dipstick was used until serial number 47,508 when it was relocated to the round side cover in 1941

 

[Mad Farmer]

It’s likely that yours was changed out, not uncommon one of my ‘39’s has the side round cover dipstick. My 1940 that Dan posted was bought from original owner. The serial number 31,798. The trans cover dipstick was used until serial number 47,508 when it was relocated to the round side cover in 1941

I'll have to check ser#. Tractor was the 2nd N sold at a local Ford dealer to a farmer next door. When he passed away another neighbor got it, then I bought it ~1985.

 

[vidkid]

Thank you everyone, your knowledge sure helps! Here's another thing that has me scratching my head. She's leaking pretty good, and when I went to check the drain plugs I saw this... looks like a cotter pin? Is this a normal thing? Thanks again!

 

[deanostoybox]

Likely the front transmission seal. Normally you would fix that when you replace the clutch. There is another cotter pin at the back of the engine just in front of or just below the flywheel. A leak there is an indication of a rear main seal leak.
The reason for the loose cotter pin is to keep the hole free of debris so it does not clog and fill the chamber with oil. You do not want oil to get on the clutch.

 

[vidkid]

Do you know if I should I seal up the hole with the cotter pin?

 

[HFJ]

Do you know if I should I seal up the hole with the cotter pin?

do NOT seal the hole. it is supposed to be there.

 

[HFJ]

to explain in more detail- you've got seals at the back of the crankshaft and the front of the transmission. if they begin to fail, they leak oil/trans fluid into the bellhousing. without that hole, that will eventually build up until it soaks your clutch.

this means u win the prize, which is splitting the tractor take care of the problem. it's a prize i'd prefer not to win

 

[vidkid]

to explain in more detail- you've got seals at the back of the crankshaft and the front of the transmission. if they begin to fail, they leak oil/trans fluid into the bellhousing. without that hole, that will eventually build up until it soaks your clutch.

this means u win the prize, which is splitting the tractor take care of the problem. it's a prize i'd prefer not to win

Seems to be hydraulic fluid not oil, so looks like the transmission seal?

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Input shaft seals are cheap but requires a split for installation. A gasket may also be required