Wasted afternoon

[super99]

The hose on the metal/hose line going to the power steering from the flow divider blew out on my Oliver 1550. Everyone said to just have a 3/8 hydraulic hose made to replace it. I've been to 5 places over 2 days and nobody can match the fitting going into the Saginaw steering motor, it's smaller than 1/2 and larger than 3/8. One place said it was a number 7 for what that is worth. I checked the Agco website and found the part number,157671A for $158 including shipping. Guess I'll order a new line and hope it's the right one.

 

[GermantownGreen]

Call Emily at Maibach first, maybe she can help you out!
GG Wes

 

[rustred]

The hose on the metal/hose line going to the power steering from the flow divider blew out on my Oliver 1550. Everyone said to just have a 3/8 hydraulic hose made to replace it. I've been to 5 places over 2 days and nobody can match the fitting going into the Saginaw steering motor, it's smaller than 1/2 and larger than 3/8. One place said it was a number 7 for what that is worth. I checked the Agco website and found the part number,157671A for $158 including shipping. Guess I'll order a new line and hope it's the right one.

post the problem with a pic, there may be another way.

 

[Brownie450]

I called Ray Arp to see if he had run into this problem,
& he thought it might be an SAE special thread.
Jim

 

[matthies]

CaseIH has some hose ends that fit over a steel line with a nut and ferral. Or cut off the special end and braze it on a new end that it slides into.

 

[504]

Try the surplus center, if they have it it will be cheaper than any one else

 

[super99]

The hose on the metal/hose line going to the power steering from the flow divider blew out on my Oliver 1550. Everyone said to just have a 3/8 hydraulic hose made to replace it. I've been to 5 places over 2 days and nobody can match the fitting going into the Saginaw steering motor, it's smaller than 1/2 and larger than 3/8. One place said it was a number 7 for what that is worth. I checked the Agco website and found the part number,157671A for $158 including shipping. Guess I'll order a new line and hope it's the right one.

 

[tom upton]

Even if you could get a hose with the correct ends I would think it would be quite a job to get it bent around to get it connected without rubbing hard and wearing thru eventually if you were able to get it threaded on? If you can get a new assembly for $158 I wouldnt bother with it but I have welded standard JIC fittings onto tubing a few times. You can even buy a male JIC to weld on, but I just used a standard male to male fitting.

 

[wore out]

The hose on the metal/hose line going to the power steering from the flow divider blew out on my Oliver 1550. Everyone said to just have a 3/8 hydraulic hose made to replace it. I've been to 5 places over 2 days and nobody can match the fitting going into the Saginaw steering motor, it's smaller than 1/2 and larger than 3/8. One place said it was a number 7 for what that is worth. I checked the Agco website and found the part number,157671A for $158 including shipping. Guess I'll order a new line and hope it's the right one.

As another poster said, have a new hose made up with ferrule ends of the appropriate size and cut the steel tube off of the old hose assembly and attach them to the new hose. DONE! STRANGE none of the "five places" you went to didn't offer you that option!

Parker Hydraulics info, most any other supplier of crimp-on hydraulic hose ends will have a version of this.

 

[chcase]

The hose on the metal/hose line going to the power steering from the flow divider blew out on my Oliver 1550. Everyone said to just have a 3/8 hydraulic hose made to replace it. I've been to 5 places over 2 days and nobody can match the fitting going into the Saginaw steering motor, it's smaller than 1/2 and larger than 3/8. One place said it was a number 7 for what that is worth. I checked the Agco website and found the part number,157671A for $158 including shipping. Guess I'll order a new line and hope it's the right one.

For 158.00 it may save alot of headache. In the future you could use a small dremel tool with cut off wheel and cut the metal sleeve off the flex hose. A good hydraulic shop would be able to make a replace hose with compression ends that would fit that tubing. I had done that alot when I worked at a farm store that also did hydraulic. Bad thing is those ends and hose would be about half the cost of your new one.

 

[bc]

Probably better going with the agco line.

FYI a 7 is a 7/16" fitting. If you giggle "sae 7/16 hydraulic fitting" then I see all kinds of fittings and adapters for 7/16 sae/oring boss fittings if that is what you have. Looks like sae and o ring boss are the same thread gauge.

 

[Geo-TH,In]

The hose on the metal/hose line going to the power steering from the flow divider blew out on my Oliver 1550. Everyone said to just have a 3/8 hydraulic hose made to replace it. I've been to 5 places over 2 days and nobody can match the fitting going into the Saginaw steering motor, it's smaller than 1/2 and larger than 3/8. One place said it was a number 7 for what that is worth. I checked the Agco website and found the part number,157671A for $158 including shipping. Guess I'll order a new line and hope it's the right one.

Supper
Coldwell in Terre Haute makes my hoses.
What little I know, there are British, SAE and metric fittings. Possible more sizes.
If you can't find a place to make one, send me the hose fitting and length. I'll go to town and have one made.
Coldwell isn't very much out of my way, It is in the center of town. I travel through town almost daily.

 

[Stan Coryell]

As another poster said, have a new hose made up with ferrule ends of the appropriate size and cut the steel tube off of the old hose assembly and attach them to the new hose. DONE! STRANGE none of the "five places" you went to didn't offer you that option!

Parker Hydraulics info, most any other supplier of crimp-on hydraulic hose ends will have a version of this.

I tried doing this on the power steering hoses for my MF 202 at the recommendation of my hydraulic shop. They will not reuse ends. I didn't know about AGCO at the time. The compression nut and ferrule wouldn't fit the 3/8" OD steel tube, I measured both tubes and they were something like 0.400". I ended up replacing the 3/8 tube as well. Double flare and a couple bends. It would have been a wash to just buy new hoses.

If I was to ever go this route again, I would mic the tube first. Brazing a fitting on the tube would have made more sense, but I already had the hoses made up.

 

[bc]

Saginaw pumps are a little weird. Giggled things like saginaw power steering pump fitting and then added Oliver tractor to it.

They used different fittings over time. Yours might be the inverted flare fitting. 1960 to 77 they went to the AN (army/navy) and some were an sae 45 degree flare different than the jic 37 degree flare. Then they went metric. Tooo much to explain here.

 

[super99]

Ended up in Burlington,Ia at Brozene Hydraulics. Young gal named Meagan looked at it and said no problem. Cost me $59.81. Came home and it fit perfectly, drove tractor out and washed the oil off and back in the shed . Storm coming so I’ll finish it tomorrow

 

[Brownie450]

Good outfit to write down for future problems.
Good that you got it fixed.
Jim

 

[Brownie450]

Just how did you end up finding Brozene?
Jim

 

[super99]

Just how did you end up finding Brozene?
Jim

A fellow tractor nut recommended them to me.

 

[wore out]

A fellow tractor nut recommended them to me.

Our little Cenex shop in a town of 90 people would have the stuff to do that.

I would think it would be tougher to find a hydraulic hose repair place that DIDN'T have the repair ends vs. all those that do!

 

[olgentdc]

Glad You got it fixed ,,.. The title " wasted afternoon " reminds Me of coming disgusted after getting rained outand just not being able to move foreward or get closure on anything some time back .. I was sitting on the porch swing and My Sara came to the screen door wearing a nice housecoat with a cold beer and Iced Tea .,,. I think Garth Brooks wrote a song About that day .