Hydraulic pump flywheel confusion

[dbsoundman]

Hi all, I recently picked up a Wagner loader for my 9N, I believe it's a model 110. It came with the front mounted hydraulic pump and driveshaft, but I need to install the correct items on my tractor to mate to the driveshaft. It is a splined driveshaft.

From what I can gather, I need:

• Crankshaft pulley with screw type hub
• Hydraulic pump hub

I also need to actually measure the driveshaft to make sure it's 3/4". If it's not, I'll have to get the driveshaft as well and adapt it to the pump.

I feel like I might still be missing something. I found another crankshaft pulley for a "pin style" hub, but I'm not sure what a pin style hub is? I also wasn't sure if I'd need a different bolt to attach the new pulley to the crankshaft, or if I should use the original bolt.

 

[old]

Hi all, I recently picked up a Wagner loader for my 9N, I believe it's a model 110. It came with the front mounted hydraulic pump and driveshaft, but I need to install the correct items on my tractor to mate to the driveshaft. It is a splined driveshaft.

From what I can gather, I need:

• Crankshaft pulley with screw type hub
• Hydraulic pump hub

I also need to actually measure the driveshaft to make sure it's 3/4". If it's not, I'll have to get the driveshaft as well and adapt it to the pump.

I feel like I might still be missing something. I found another crankshaft pulley for a "pin style" hub, but I'm not sure what a pin style hub is? I also wasn't sure if I'd need a different bolt to attach the new pulley to the crankshaft, or if I should use the original bolt.

If it has the hand crank type bolt yes you need to replace it. If it is just a plan bolt no you don't have to replace it. The real fun is getting the old pulley off and the new one on

 

[dbsoundman]

If it has the hand crank type bolt yes you need to replace it. If it is just a plan bolt no you don't have to replace it. The real fun is getting the old pulley off and the new one on

Yeah it has a weird looking bolt, so I'm assuming it's for the hand crank. I read in some older threads that if you put some 1/4" rope down a spark plug hole that will help hold the engine back to get the bolt off. I'm already planning on pulling the radiator since it needs a good cleaning so I should have decent access.

 

[old]

Yeah it has a weird looking bolt, so I'm assuming it's for the hand crank. I read in some older threads that if you put some 1/4" rope down a spark plug hole that will help hold the engine back to get the bolt off. I'm already planning on pulling the radiator since it needs a good cleaning so I should have decent access.

One problem with pulling the old pulley off is having enough room between the front axle and the engine to get the pulley off the engine

 

[dbsoundman]

One problem with pulling the old pulley off is having enough room between the front axle and the engine to get the pulley off the engine

Yeah, that will probably be interesting, but I'm also likely going to be tearing into the front axle as there's currently a large bolt where the hole for the hand crank should be so I have to figure out why that's in there and take it out. I'll be learning a lot on that adventure!

 

[TheOldHokie]

Yeah, that will probably be interesting, but I'm also likely going to be tearing into the front axle as there's currently a large bolt where the hole for the hand crank should be so I have to figure out why that's in there and take it out. I'll be learning a lot on that adventure!

Far easier if ypu remove the hood, radiator, entire front axle. wheels with radius and tie rods and acle support.

You need the following pump drive parts - about $150 total

192160 - crankshaft pulley
192161 - splined hub
194354 - splined drive shaft

TOH

 

[dbsoundman]

Far easier if ypu remove the hood, radiator, entire front axle. wheels with radius and tie rods and acle support.

You need the following pump drive parts - about $150 total

192160 - crankshaft pulley
192161 - splined hub
194354 - splined drive shaft

TOH

Thanks Hokie! I already have the hood off, the loader instructions told me to take the radius arms off anyway, and I had figured I would have to at least partially disassemble the front axle to figure out what's going on in there anyway. And then I'll probably get about halfway through and find out I need to order yet another part.