Pole Barn Gable End Framing

[will-max dairy]

Will, I don't plan on attaching gable end bracing to the truss at all. Those diagonal braces will go up to the purlins.

I understand. We're all here commenting about bracing and such; and you're actually a step ahead of us... thinking about how different bracing systems dissipate flex...

We're talking screws and nails... you're thinking dougong... lol

 

[SweetFeet]

Well, after six months I finally have a roof on my metal truss pole barn. First crew abandoned me after sitting the posts. Numerous calls and texts went unanswered. I found another crew building one near me and I went and asked if they would finish mine. They did after I purchased the rest of the needed
2x6 purlins and metal for the roof.
I finished the side that most of my rain comes from but want to close in the front gable end. I was reading where they say NOT to connect your gable end
framing to the truss. They said it should be connected to the purlins and not the truss. Not sure I understand that but don't want to do it wrong. I was wondering if anyone knows how to properly do this. I have searched the web and can't find any good info.
I plan to enclose the gable end from top to ground and have two sliding doors to help keep prying eyes out. lololol
Any advice is appreciated.
Tom

Nothing to do with your shed... but I love the Spanish moss on your big tree!

Only been south twice but I love it there!
If only I could convince my hubby to leave this land of snow 'n ice.

 

[purplewg]

Nothing to do with your shed... but I love the Spanish moss on your big tree!

Only been south twice but I love it there!
If only I could convince my hubby to leave this land of snow 'n ice.

Yeah, the picture doesn't do the tree justice. When I was a kid that tree was already huge. It is a Live Oak. Giving away my age, I have been around that tree for more than 60 years. Don't really know how old that tree is.

 

[SweetFeet]

Yeah, the picture doesn't do the tree justice. When I was a kid that tree was already huge. It is a Live Oak. Giving away my age, I have been around that tree for more than 60 years. Don't really know how old that tree is.

Interesting.

On the farm where I grew up, there was a huge maple tree, planted by my great grandpa. I wonder if it is still there.

 

[ss55]

Interesting.

On the farm where I grew up, there was a huge maple tree, planted by my great grandpa. I wonder if it is still there.

If you know the location, try looking for it Google Maps. The minimum resolution is roughly one foot square or a little less.

 

[john in la]

Yeah, the picture doesn't do the tree justice. When I was a kid that tree was already huge. It is a Live Oak. Giving away my age, I have been around that tree for more than 60 years. Don't really know how old that tree is.

If the limbs of a southern live oak don’t touch the ground the tree is not very old. Many around here on plantation land so they were planted before the civil war.

I live about 10 miles from one of the oldest trees. The “Seven Sisters Oak. It has a spread of over 150 feet and is estimated to be between 500 and 1000 years old.

 

[SweetFeet]

If you know the location, try looking for it Google Maps. The minimum resolution is roughly one foot square or a little less.

I will try to find it... don't know the modern day address - back in the day it was just a rural route number and a box number.

 

[flying belgian]

If the limbs of a southern live oak don’t touch the ground the tree is not very old. Many around here on plantation land so they were planted before the civil war.

I live about 10 miles from one of the oldest trees. The “Seven Sisters Oak. It has a spread of over 150 feet and is estimated to be between 500 and 1000 years old.

Isn't it amazing how old some trees are? When the folks bought my place there was a shaggy cedar tree in my yard. It was probably 20" dia. after 40 years it was so unsightly I cut it down but here's the thing..It was still only about 20" dia. Hadn't changed a bit in 40 yrs. So how old was that tree to get to that size since it hadn't changed in 40.

 

[paul]

No problem Will. I received a lot of advice on bracing which I had planned on doing anyway. I was more curious as to my original question of
attaching my vertical posts on the gable ends to the metal trusses. Right or wrong? lol I still plan to go look at a neighbors barn that was built by the team that finished my roofing. They work for one company here and do all their work. They came and spent two days on a weekend to finish my roof. I was impressed with them. The original guys had the barn 6 inches out of square and I told the last team about it. I was impressed with how they were able to square my roof even though the posts were out of square. No stair stepping on the metal anywhere. Now, I wouldn't even think about it if I hadn't checked squareness of the posts myself while waiting to get the roof structure done.

A problem with bracing to the metal trusses you have is you introduce a side load to them. Those type of truss are real strong in one direction, but very weak in side loading. Once they deflect even a little to the side (twist), they become much weaker in their vertical load.

Or, they can take a lot of weight straight down, but if you flex them a little to the side they will want to twist out and collapse down in a hurry,

With your opening question it was difficult to know your skill level, understanding level, of all this. I think the replies to this thread are all excellent, and allow people of all skill levels to learn and understand different aspects.

These types of forums are not about only ‘me’ if I ask a question, but about general knowlege to be understood by 100s or thousands that read it over the years.

With your very limited initial message, we need to consider so many possibilities.

The more info you supplied, the closer we can come to understand your exact position and help you specifically. While still helping many others with similar but different thoughts and situations.

Paul

 

[ss55]

I will try to find it... don't know the modern day address - back in the day it was just a rural route number and a box number.

If you remember how many miles and which direction from a town you can often count the sections from that town and get pretty close on Google maps without knowing the modern address.

 

[SweetFeet]

If you remember how many miles and which direction from a town you can often count the sections from that town and get pretty close on Google maps without knowing the modern address.

Okay. I'll try that.

 

[SweetFeet]

Okay. I'll try that.

ss55,
I found a pic - not the clearest... but I think the old maple is still there.

 

[purplewg]

If the limbs of a southern live oak don’t touch the ground the tree is not very old. Many around here on plantation land so they were planted before the civil war.

I live about 10 miles from one of the oldest trees. The “Seven Sisters Oak. It has a spread of over 150 feet and is estimated to be between 500 and 1000 years old.

I have several live oaks that the limbs touch the ground. Sadly one blew over during a hurricane some years (8) ago. It is still healthy and growing
even though it's root system on one side is exposed. The one in my picture would be touching the ground if we hadn't trimmed the limbs to keep them off of the old barn that sat where my new barn is.