Ford 7000 with pieces of needle bearing that fell out when draining oil

[Bern]

Can't imagine it would work well without the pilot bearing. Plan to see if I can find a housing. It looks like a housing from a 5000 would work, I have load monitering, single pto diff lock on mine with the 8 speed trans with 2 reverse with no dual power. Does anyone know if there is any other options like from newer tractors that might have the same housing that would work. Or maybe is there a complete rear end with axles that would bolt up to my trans from maybe a newer tractor, if I get to checking arround never know what I might come across in salvage yards.

I think finding a complete rear axle assembly (with or without final drives) would be your best bet. To the best of my knowledge, a 7600 rear end should bolt up and work just fine, but don't bet the farm on it (meaning I'm not 100% sure).

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Not for much longer if he does any serious pulling with it.

It's in a log skidder and it's been in use for who knows how long like that. I discovered it 5 years ago but the debris had all been cleaned out already. I told him to say a prayer and it seems to be working because when it's used it's used hard and it's still functioning.

 

[7000Eric]

So since I don't have tractor split at this time to properly check rolling torque with a spring scale I checked endplay on pinion shaft and had to really pry with a pry bar to barely get .0005 so don't believe there is anything major with pinion shaft bearing wear. So I'm in the process of finding a new rear center housing.

 

[7000Eric]

So since I don't have tractor split at this time I checked endplay on pinion shaft and had to really pry with a pry bar to barely get .0005. Don't think there is anything major with pinion shaft bearings. So I'm in the process of finding a center housing.

 

[Destroked 450]

You never have said what year model your 7000 is
All 7000 models had load monitor, a 5000 housing that did not have load monitor will not work
My info shows the 71/72 7000’s pto used the pawl brake system like the 65/72 5000. Ford changed to the band brake pto in 73 which uses a different axle center housing
You can use the later housing on a early tractor but you would need the complete pto assembly to make the swap
7600 rear axle will bolt on but the part number is different from one for a 7000, if doing this swap I’d want the complete assembly with hydraulic pump, lift top and pto components
Parts book shows 5600/6600/7600 to use the same rear axle center section, however be aware that 7000/7600 outer axle assemblies use heavier duty planetary assemblies and brakes with 4 disc. 5000/5600/6600 used different planetary assemblies with narrower gears and brakes with only 3 disc, unless your doing heavy tillage the lighter planetary probably is a big issue but the 3 disc brakes would be giving up a good bit of stopping power

 

[7000Eric]

Thanks for the info, tractor is a 73, originally had old style pto brake but updated to band style 2-3 years ago-much better design.

 

[7000Eric]

Have located a 7700 with cab rear end any idea how that would bolt up?

 

[Destroked 450]

7700 is row crop model with high flat platform
All control linkage is different, clutch, brakes, pto, lift top, remotes
I don’t know if clutch/brake rod, pto control lever, lift top assembly from you 7000 will work on a 7600/7700 axle

 

[7000Eric]

That's what I figured but I'm not familiar with a 7700, so not a good option, thanks

 

[Fordfarmer]

7700 is row crop model with high flat platform
All control linkage is different, clutch, brakes, pto, lift top, remotes
I don’t know if clutch/brake rod, pto control lever, lift top assembly from you 7000 will work on a 7600/7700 axle

7600/7700 use the same rear end, just the control linkage is different.
I'm not sure about the lift top assembly, but the clutch and brake rods and PTO control lever should work.

 

[7000Eric]

Found what is supposed to be three 5000 fords at a junkyard, they have no idea if they are 5000 with load monitoring or not, does anyone know what the casting numbers would be on a 5000 rear diff center housing with load monitering would be? Sounds like a 5000 diff center housing from a 5000 would work as long as it has load monitoring. Thinking about going and checking it out this weekend.

 

[mhb@ufe]

It most likely is the same casting number as yours since the 5000 and 7000 use the same housing.

 

[Bern]

Found what is supposed to be three 5000 fords at a junkyard, they have no idea if they are 5000 with load monitoring or not, does anyone know what the casting numbers would be on a 5000 rear diff center housing with load monitering would be? Sounds like a 5000 diff center housing from a 5000 would work as long as it has load monitoring. Thinking about going and checking it out this weekend.

A 5000 with Load Monitor is a rare beast, so the odds are high that these do not have that option. I don't think it matters anyway if all you need is the bare housing.

 

[Sean in PA]

The parts site shows that the trans cases listed for both the 5000 & 7000 say W/Dual Power, and the ones listed for the 5000 only do not mention Dual Power. None of them mention Load Monitor.

 

[mhb@ufe]

He is looking for a rear axle center housing not a trans housing.

 

[FOMOCO Farmer]

I have an English version 7000. It hasn't run in years. The motor is tired. I'm fairly sure it has the load monitor. I can look today. I'd sell the tractor. Im in southern middle Tennessee. 75 miles south of Nashville.

 

[Bern]

I have an English version 7000. It hasn't run in years. The motor is tired. I'm fairly sure it has the load monitor. I can look today. I'd sell the tractor. Im in southern middle Tennessee. 75 miles south of Nashville.

All 7000 tractors had Load Monitor.

 

[Destroked 450]

My 7000 rear axle is 2 spd pto which is different and will have a different casting number
My brother has a 7000 with single speed 540 pto but I’m not sure what year model it is
I’ll check as soon as I get a chance

Maybe Bern can confirm but I think all load monitor rear axles had the external oil filter and were common sump, the 74 model 5000 I have without load monitor does not have the external filter and is separate compartment

Personally I don’t do heavy tillage that would benefit having load monitor, thus I would find a 5600/6600 rear axle center housing complete with hydraulic pump and lift top, then add on your 7000 outer axle assemblies

 

[Bern]

My 7000 rear axle is 2 spd pto which is different and will have a different casting number
My brother has a 7000 with single speed 540 pto but I’m not sure what year model it is
I’ll check as soon as I get a chance

Maybe Bern can confirm but I think all load monitor rear axles had the external oil filter and were common sump, the 74 model 5000 I have without load monitor does not have the external filter and is separate compartment

Personally I don’t do heavy tillage that would benefit having load monitor, thus I would find a 5600/6600 rear axle center housing complete with hydraulic pump and lift top, then add on your 7000 outer axle assemblies

All 7000s had Load Monitor with the external filter, and all 7000s were common sump, regardless of whether or not it had Dual Power. As you stated, single-speed and two-speed rear axle housings were different.

 

[Ole blue]

All 7000 tractors had Load Monitor.

I’ve got a row crop 7000 that does not have load monitor.