Ingersoll Carburetor Troubles.

[LarFure]

I have a Ingersoll 3014 that has carburetor issues. This past spring I couldn't get it to start and suspected the fuel pump wasn't working. I went to Barneveld and bought a new fuel pump from Bill. After I installed the pump the engine still wouldn't run. I. Could get it to run by dribbling gas into the top of the carb. It would run until that gas ran out. After that I figured that maybe the needle valve might be sticking. I took off the air cleaner and tapped on top of the carb about where the needle valve sits. It started right up after that. We'll, the tractor sat all summer. I tried to start it up to move it, but it wouldn't start, again. I went through the other steps from last spring, except buying a new pump. Still wouldn't start. I took the top of the carb off and checked the needle valve. It looked okay to me. The problem must be deeper in the carb. Is there anything, short of rebuilding the carb, that I could check next. Any ideas?

 

[Fawteen]

At the very least, I'd recommend a thorough cleaning. Doesn't take much to plug up a critical passage.

 

[kencombs]

If your3014 is one of the later 2cyl briggs engined models, it probably has a fuel shut off solenoid on the carb. It must retract when the key is on to keep it running. Tapping the carb could cause an intermittent one to work. Just a guess.

 

[LarFure]

Thanks for the replies. I haven't done anything with the 3014 since I first posted. Maybe I'll take time to try a few things, then come back whether I got it running or not.

 

[LarFure]

I made it out to the shed to fool with the 3014 the other day. I saw a brass thing hanging on the right side of the carburetor. Would that be the fuel shut off selinoid? I was going to take it off to look at it, but I didn't have time to remove a bunch of stuff off the engine to get to it. I tapped on it a few times, but nothing happened. I tried dribbling a little seafoam in the carburetor to hear it run, but must have flooded the engine. The spark plugs were wet when I checked them. I left them out to dry off. I had to put a charger on the battery. I run it down cranking on it too much.

 

[kencombs]

If the
'brass thing' had a wire connected that's probably the fuel solenoid. It plugs the main jet when not powered, retracted.

 

[LarFure]

Do these selinoids go bad,or could it be in the wiring?

 

[kencombs]

Could be either. Easy to test, just rig a jumper wire direct from the battery to the solenoid connector. You should hear and feel it snap back. If it does, the check the wiring, or ignition switch.

 

[LarFure]

Could be either. Easy to test, just rig a jumper wire direct from the battery to the solenoid connector. You should hear and feel it snap back. If it does, the check the wiring, or ignition switch.

Should I hear the solenoid click when I turn the switch on?

 

[kencombs]

Should I hear the solenoid click when I turn the switch on?

Yes, if not, test as mentioned above. Sometimes I can't hear them, hearing issues, but place you finger on it and you can feel it easily.

 

[LarFure]

I finally got the 3014 running, but it's running lean. What I did was to cut the end of the plunger off. I tried to take some of the shroud off to get to the wires to the solenoid. One of the things was the fuel pump. I couldn't find a way to do that, so I unscrewed the solenoid to see if it would work when I turned the key on. The plunger wouldn't move. So I pushed it in and out with a pliers to loosen it up. It would retract when the key was turned on, but it was sluggish and while I was doing that a small plastic dohicky fell off the tip of the plunger. So, I decided to cut the plunger off and put the solenoid back into the carburetor. When I first started it I had to keep the choke on to make in run. After some time it would run at about half throttle without the choke. I think there is some air in the system. I had dropped the fuel pump, with the hose to the tank on it, and a bunch of fuel drained out. That's probably where the air comes from. I had to quit,after I buttoned it up, to eat dinner. I'll go out some time and run it some more to work that air out.

 

[kencombs]

Make sure the fuel lines are flexible and seal on the fittings well. Also, if that one has a pulse line it must be airtight also, cracks in it on the ends will stop it from pumping.

 

[LarFure]

Make sure the fuel lines are flexible and seal on the fittings well. Also, if that one has a pulse line it must be airtight also, cracks in it on the ends will stop it from pumping.

The pump was new a year ago. I replaced some of the hoses then. I changed the hose from the pump to the carburetor today. It was running better the longer I ran it. That's what made me think there was some air in the hoses.