1194 clutch function

[Williamarsenault]

Hey guys finally got this 1194 with no hydraulic function what so ever back to the shop but now added another set of problems . I suspect the clutch plate is stuck to the flywheel . When the clutch is depressed it moves one lever on the side of the transmission my question is should it move both levers or just 1 ? Ill include a picture for reference .

This post was edited by Williamarsenault on 05/05/2022 at 10:09 am.

 

[Williamarsenault]

 

[RGMartin]

you have an independent clutch 1194, not a 2 stage.

The pedal moves one lever. the PTO/hydraulic clutch handle moves the other.

 

[Williamarsenault]

(quoted from post at 22:15:24 05/05/22) you have an independent clutch 1194, not a 2 stage.

The pedal moves one lever. the PTO/hydraulic clutch handle moves the other.

Ok thank you RG this is what I thought but wanted to be sure before I try put it in high gear and chain it to another tractor to attempt to break it free!
Is there anything that needs to be done on these tractors to engage the hydraulic pump or is it engaged all the time ? This unit has no flow what so ever , the only back story I have is once upon a time it took a couple attempts to lift the 3 point hitch arms but the owner is not mechanically inclined so could provide little in the way of information . There is no sound of cavitation of relief which is leaning me towards either pump not engaged or a shaft sheared off

 

[RGMartin]

Pump should run unless the PTO clutch handle is up.

What is it doing that makes you think the clutch is stuck?

 

[Williamarsenault]

(quoted from post at 01:37:34 05/06/22) Pump should run unless the PTO clutch handle is up.

What is it doing that makes you think the clutch is stuck?

With the pto clutch handle down I can activate the pto itself using the next handle back to engage the pto shaft but still get no noise or sign of life from my hydraulic remotes or 3 point hitch shaft .
What leads me to believe the clutch is stuck to the pressure plate is when you depress the clutch when running (if I start it in gear) the tractor does not stop . I selected a low gear and allowed the loader to come up against a tree with the clutch still depressed it just spun against the tree but never broke loose .

 

[RGMartin]

I think it is more likely your clutch disc came apart. All 3 of my 1194s(and my 1190) have had the discs come apart, or were apart when I bought them. Strangely not an issue with the 770s, 780s or 885s that I have.

Pull the bottom cover off the clutch and see if their is any clutch material inside.

How much free play do you have in the clutch pedal?

 

[Williamarsenault]

Oh strange ok we better check that in the morning before I get into trying to break something free that may not be there .
There is likely 2 inches or so of free play before weight comes on the linkage

 

[RGMartin]

Adjust linkage until you have about an inch of free play. Just tighten the nut on the threaded rod by the lever you asked about.