190xt allis, any good?

[Deeretrax]

Hello, does anybody know anything about a 190 xt allis? I am thinking about buying one for a small square baler and I don't know much about them. Anything to watch out for? Any help would be great. Thankyou

 

[old]

Man that would be like buy a Peter-built truck to haul a few sheets of plywood home. That tractor is a 100HP tractor and if your planing to hook it to that NH271 your wasting a ton of fuel. That said the common problem with the 190XT was the transmission jumping out of gear and if it has that problem it will cost an arm and leg to fix. Either way f you want it to pull a square baler it is way to big look for a D-17 or other such or even a WD. To pull that NH271 you only need around 30HP. Ya if your going to do a big round baler you need a 60HP tractor but again not one as big as the 190XT I know I used one for my big round baler and it was way over kill as in being 25HP bigger the the manual for that baler said to even use

 

[old]

By the way back 10 or so years ago I knew a tractor dealer that said he would NEVER have a 190XT on his lot and you could not even give him one he would not let it on his lot

 

[rufus80]

Is it gas or diesel? If is gas it will cost a lot to run.

 

[Charlie175]

If used as intended and not abused, the 190 was a good tractor. If weighed down and fuel turned up, then yes they had issues with the rear end. They were not made to run 130hp +

If the tranny was abused they tend jump out of gear, typically 3rd gear.

Otherwise a lot of people have used them and love them. The motor was very durable.

 

[old]

I agree with you as to why they had problems but way way over kill to pull a small square baler not he least

 

[Charlie175]

A 170/175 diesel would suit that application well. The "Big Stick" was made for that type of work.

 

[old]

For the baler he was talking about he did a post in the implement forum he could use a WD and be just fine. He asked about a NH271 which I own one of and pull behind a WD at times or a D-17 or even the IH340 row crop. A 170 is over kill for that baler also

 

[LazyWP]

The 190xt diesel, is extremely fuel efficient. If you can idle down and run your baler, I would venture to guess it will get way better economy then any of the smaller tractors. The biggest draw back is it doesn't have a true live pto. You need to use the power directer lever to give it live, sorta, pto.

 

[Charlie175]

depends on the terrain also. A baler and wagon on hills can be a load.

 

[JMS/.MN]

It has live pto courtesy of the Power Director. It is not Independent pto. If you can stop tractor travel and keep the pto running, by whatever means, it is live.

 

[Jack a]

I've baled with an IH706, ACWD, D17, D19 and a 190XT pulling either a 268 or 270 or 273 baler. I prefer the 190 with hydraulic actuated PTO clutch. It's the only one my wife will agree to drive too. Fuel usage is so little it even amazed my FIL and he's a Deere man. Find a good 190 that's been well taken care of. It's worth paying a bit more for a good one. You won't regret it.

 

[Jack a]

I've baled with an IH706, ACWD, D17, D19 and a 190XT pulling either a 268 or 270 or 273 baler. I prefer the 190 with hydraulic actuated PTO clutch. It's the only one my wife will agree to drive too. Fuel usage is so little it even amazed my FIL and he's a Deere man. Find a good 190 that's been well taken care of. It's worth paying a bit more for a good one. You won't regret it.

 

[hd6gtom]

It will be an excellent tractor for that use. I would rather ride a 190XT all day long then a WD or Wc as others are talking about. Check to make sure it doesnt jump out of 3rd gear simply by going down a steep hil with it in 3rd gear. If it jumps out it will need to be split to fix.

 

[JJL]

I use a 190XT Diesel for my baling. It may be excessive horsepower, but it has excellent fuel economy. It uses less fuel than my MF85 gas which is 62 HP. I have lots of steep hills and my Massey was just big enough to pull the baler and full rack & it has loaded tires and weights. Now with the 190 I know I have enough power and it handles the weight of the baler and rack wagon better. You may be able to run a baler with less horsepower, but when the load pushes your little tractor down a hill you'll wish you had the bigger one.

 

[JJL]

I run an older NH baler with a kicker and use 9x18 racks that hold around 150 bales. Just rough figuring the baler and the full racks together weigh around 9,000-10,000 pounds. My 190 weighs around 11,000 pounds. If you tried taking that load down a hill with a 30 HP tractor that weighs half as much you will DEFINITELY have a wreck.

 

[BrianIA]

We had a 190 xt diesel on a 327 deere baler for years. Not a better tractor for fuel use and comfort on a square baler.