1939 9n engine stamp 1

[Lanser]

My father passed away and he has a 1939 9n,he completely went through ot rebuilt motor ,hydrolics was womdering what its worth and where i can sell it emgine stamp #001.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

My father passed away and he has a 1939 9n,he completely went through ot rebuilt motor ,hydrolics was womdering what its worth and where i can sell it emgine stamp #001.

NOPE, sorry! You don’t have s/n ☆9N-1☆. That tractor does not exist anymore. Where did you find this number? Serial Numbers were hand stamped on the engine block on a cast raised boss in one place only. The boss is on the top LH side of the block and near the oil filter canister - SEE PIX. Serial Numbers were ID'd with the hand stamp AFTER the engine passed Quality Control and a testing/break-in procedure. S/N's also were to also double as the vehicle serial number as well but engines got swapped out a lot so can't always go by the s/n as YOUR tractor. A S/N just gives you bragging rights for that engine. In addition, FORD used a STAR (☆) symbol (*) prefix and suffix on the S/N that was to define the engine as using steel cylinder sleeves. In 1950 FORD changed to cast iron sleeves and all serial numbers after then would now use a (⬨) Diamond Symbol (<>) stamp. SEE PIX. Today it is all a moot point because they no longer make steel liners so you can only buy cast iron sleeves when getting new ones. The first, early 1939 Ford-Ferguson 9N Tractors had many unique parts not used on any other tractors that followed after 1940/41. If you don’t know these identifying characteristics, here is a LINK that will give you an idea what to look for. Not all early 9N parts are listed here but it is the best place to start. Running boards and the bumper grille was never a factory feature.

1939 FORD-FERGUSON 9N – SOME UNIQUE PARTS TO ID –

Aluminum Hood

Aluminum Horizontal Bar Grille

Aluminum Doglegs

Double Ribbed Fenders

32” Rear Wheels & Tires

4-Spoke Steering Wheel

Small 3-1/2” Barrel Diameter GENERATOR, 7 AMP, 2-Wire/2-Brush

Square Can Voltage Regulator

Brass Sediment Bulb

Snap-In Battery Cover

Start Pushbutton on LH Dash Panel

LIGNITION “ON” Lamp on LH Dash Panel

Key Switch on RH Dash Panel

Muffler Shield

5/8” Diameter Screw-On Chrome Shifter Ball

…for starters.

Tim Daley (MI)



LINK: Tractor History/ID

https://fordtractorcollectors.com/identify-my-tractor/tractor-id-history/

 

[Lanser]

Its a massy- ferguson,ill take some pics in the morning for you

 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

NOPE, sorry! You don’t have s/n ☆9N-1☆. That tractor does not exist anymore. Where did you find this number? Serial Numbers were hand stamped on the engine block on a cast raised boss in one place only. The boss is on the top LH side of the block and near the oil filter canister - SEE PIX. Serial Numbers were ID'd with the hand stamp AFTER the engine passed Quality Control and a testing/break-in procedure. S/N's also were to also double as the vehicle serial number as well but engines got swapped out a lot so can't always go by the s/n as YOUR tractor. A S/N just gives you bragging rights for that engine. In addition, FORD used a STAR (☆) symbol (*) prefix and suffix on the S/N that was to define the engine as using steel cylinder sleeves. In 1950 FORD changed to cast iron sleeves and all serial numbers after then would now use a (⬨) Diamond Symbol (<>) stamp. SEE PIX. Today it is all a moot point because they no longer make steel liners so you can only buy cast iron sleeves when getting new ones. The first, early 1939 Ford-Ferguson 9N Tractors had many unique parts not used on any other tractors that followed after 1940/41. If you don’t know these identifying characteristics, here is a LINK that will give you an idea what to look for. Not all early 9N parts are listed here but it is the best place to start. Running boards and the bumper grille was never a factory feature.

1939 FORD-FERGUSON 9N – SOME UNIQUE PARTS TO ID –

Aluminum Hood

Aluminum Horizontal Bar Grille

Aluminum Doglegs

Double Ribbed Fenders

32” Rear Wheels & Tires

4-Spoke Steering Wheel

Small 3-1/2” Barrel Diameter GENERATOR, 7 AMP, 2-Wire/2-Brush

Square Can Voltage Regulator

Brass Sediment Bulb

Snap-In Battery Cover

Start Pushbutton on LH Dash Panel

LIGNITION “ON” Lamp on LH Dash Panel

Key Switch on RH Dash Panel

Muffler Shield

5/8” Diameter Screw-On Chrome Shifter Ball

…for starters.

Tim Daley (MI)



LINK: Tractor History/ID

https://fordtractorcollectors.com/identify-my-tractor/tractor-id-history/

Was the electrical equipment included with the base tractor or were they options?

Mike

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Was the electrical equipment included with the base tractor or were they options?

Mike

Mike, the only "options" electrically were the lighting kits. They were never a factory item (til 1954), always a dealer option. The Electrical System was basically the same on all FORD TRACTORS. Components were, on all 9N & 2N Models: 1-Wire 6V Starter Motor and NO RELAY (SOLENOID); 6V Generator, changed 4 times til 1947; Voltage Regulator used only with early 1939 GEN then used the Round Can Cutout til 1947; Distributor & Coil; Induction 30A Ammeter; Dash Light only on early 39/40 units; Ignition Key Switch; Pushbutton Start Switch; and all wired correctly. Lights were never a factory feature - always a dealer option.

In July 1947 the new 8N was released. It now used a 3-wire/3-brush 11.5 6V Generator til 1950; then a 20A/2-Brush unit; a Voltage Regulator; a new Starter Motor, 3-Wire, 6V that now used a RELAY (SOLENOID); Distributor & Coil; 30A Loop AMMETER; Pushbutton Start Switch; Ignition Key Switch; all wired correctly. No lights from factory. The 20A/2-Brush GEN system was used til 64. In 1959 when the new diesel models came out, they now used a 12V power source but still used a GEN and a VR. Lights were a standard feature beginning in 1954 with the 800 Model and only headlights were used.

Tim Daley (MI)

 

[Jim.ME]

Its a massy- ferguson,ill take some pics in the morning for you

Is it a Massey Ferguson, or plain a Ferguson (aka Harry Ferguson)? Look for a tag riveted to the dash/cowl.