1941 9n correct decals

[woodman1928]

Im getting ready to finish the last details on my 41' 9n and im looking at the decal sets and they seem like they are not quite right

They seem to look like they go to an 2n or an 8n Example

My Be Careful Sticker PTO sticker has square edges and a bright white background behind the blue I thought originally there was no white background just blue dropped on the grey paint.

Also the oil filter stickers seem off I thought the one on top of it was shaped in a semi-circle to fit the slant of the top

id love to know if anyone has pictures of surviving decals on these tractors

i have the set of decals below

I think the oil filter top decal should be this?

so id love impute because I'm just a bit confused and again if anyone has photos of serving decals that would be great.
Pictures are pictures of decals'

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

That is an 8N decal kit. The air cleaner was the only decal and it depends on whether you had the Donaldson one or the United one...Oil Filter housing...maybe. PIX?

TPD

 

[woodman1928]

So their was no other decals on the 9ns not even the pto warning tag?

How do i know which air cleaner i have? Mine has an H at the very top an flat bottom oil cup with the thumb screw retaining ring and a wing nut top saldered mesh sided cap intake.

Thanks

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

HiYa Chris-
First, let me just say up front that it is your tractor and you can do anything you want with it, even paint it pink (but NOT green & yeller) so your call on what you do with it. Next, there was only one decal on the 9Ns and that was only the Donaldson Air Cleaner. UNITED and the later C3, HOUDAILLE-HERSHEY (HH) units did not use a decal. Decals were released with standard 2N Tractor production in April, 1943 when the US War Board lifted the restrictions. The Warhorse 2N did not have decals either and were now using just the UNITED style air cleaner. In the back of the March, 1940 MPC, and later MPCs as well, there is a list parts that were used based on serial numbers. Donaldson and United shared air cleaners on the early 9N. There is a difference and the cups are the fastest way to ID them. United cups were more rounded. Donaldson had a more squarely shaped cup. Donaldson made air cleaners for other tractors, Alli-Chalmers for one, and there were two decals on them. There are actually two Donaldson decals used on the air cleaner. The large square one was on the top of the unit and the smaller, rectangular one was on the bottom of the cup. Look at all the original films and still photos of early 9Ns and see for yourself. Here is a picture of Henry Ford demonstrating the first 9N tractor at Fair Lane on June 29, 1939. Look closely at the air cleaner and you can see it is the Donaldson and has the two decals on it. That was it. Dont go by any FORD TRACTOR book with pictures of any 9Ns in it that are not original FORD era photos. Dwight Emstroms s/n 16 is typical. It and others shown in this books are not correct. There was no PTO WARNING; no FRAM oil filter cartridge; and no BATTERY FILL decal. Those came with 2N model. The new battery cover had the water fill decal. Those familiar blue decals are now offered in a generic kit (SEE LINK) and include the two Proofmeter decals used on late 8Ns. You can get them individually as well. George Bradish Tractor Parts, Latrobe, PA, has the Donaldson decal too in OEM water transferable and modern vinyl adhesive. FWIW & FYI: FORD never offered a single or a separate decal kit available as an accessory. If so, show me where in the MPC's.

We know the 9N-9600-C1 Air Cleaner was supplied by DONALDSON, used on early 9Ns, alternately with the 9N-9600-C2 UNITED model. When standard 2N production began in April, 1943, the supplier was changed to HOUDAILLE-HERSHEY with their 'H' logo and the C-3 suffix added in two places and with a tangential V-clamp.

HENRY FORD & 1939 FORD-FERGUSON 9N TRACTOR DEMO JUNE 29, 1939:

DONALDSON AIR CLEANER REPOP DECAL:

HOUDAILLE-HERSHEY, H-H, AIR CLEANER:

NOTE: THE H-H AIR CLEANER WAS THE ONLY ONE USED BEGINNING WITH THE STD 2N. FORD REVAMPED THE AIR CLEANER WITH THE 8N MODEL AND H-H WAS THE ONLY SUPPLIER AFTER 1949.


AFTERMARKET GENERIC 39-52 DECAL KIT SOLD TODAY:

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[Ishmeal]

(quoted from post at 09:43:49 08/02/22) HiYa Chris-
First, let me just say up front that it is your tractor and you can do anything you want with it, even paint it pink (but NOT green & yeller) so your call on what you do with it. Next, there was only one decal on the 9Ns and that was only the Donaldson Air Cleaner. UNITED and the later C3, HOUDAILLE-HERSHEY (HH) units did not use a decal. Decals were released with standard 2N Tractor production in April, 1943 when the US War Board lifted the restrictions. The Warhorse 2N did not have decals either and were now using just the UNITED style air cleaner. In the back of the March, 1940 MPC, and later MPCs as well, there is a list parts that were used based on serial numbers. Donaldson and United shared air cleaners on the early 9N. There is a difference and the cups are the fastest way to ID them. United cups were more rounded. Donaldson had a more squarely shaped cup. Donaldson made air cleaners for other tractors, Alli-Chalmers for one, and there were two decals on them. There are actually two Donaldson decals used on the air cleaner. The large square one was on the top of the unit and the smaller, rectangular one was on the bottom of the cup. Look at all the original films and still photos of early 9Ns and see for yourself. Here is a picture of Henry Ford demonstrating the first 9N tractor at Fair Lane on June 29, 1939. Look closely at the air cleaner and you can see it is the Donaldson and has the two decals on it. That was it. Dont go by any FORD TRACTOR book with pictures of any 9Ns in it that are not original FORD era photos. Dwight Emstroms s/n 16 is typical. It and others shown in this books are not correct. There was no PTO WARNING; no FRAM oil filter cartridge; and no BATTERY FILL decal. Those came with 2N model. The new battery cover had the water fill decal. Those familiar blue decals are now offered in a generic kit (SEE LINK) and include the two Proofmeter decals used on late 8Ns. You can get them individually as well. George Bradish Tractor Parts, Latrobe, PA, has the Donaldson decal too in OEM water transferable and modern vinyl adhesive. FWIW & FYI: FORD never offered a single or a separate decal kit available as an accessory. If so, show me where in the MPC's.

We know the 9N-9600-C1 Air Cleaner was supplied by DONALDSON, used on early 9Ns, alternately with the 9N-9600-C2 UNITED model. When standard 2N production began in April, 1943, the supplier was changed to HOUDAILLE-HERSHEY with their 'H' logo and the C-3 suffix added in two places and with a tangential V-clamp.

HENRY FORD & 1939 FORD-FERGUSON 9N TRACTOR DEMO JUNE 29, 1939:
<center><img src=https://i.imgur.com/Bg3gVS1h.jpg></center>

DONALDSON AIR CLEANER REPOP DECAL:
<center><img src=http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/ploughNman/kellyjewelldecals_zps3f6bdecb.jpeg></center>

HOUDAILLE-HERSHEY, H-H, AIR CLEANER:
<center><img src=http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa400/dsteinbach/aircleaner_2N_1946.jpg></center>

NOTE: THE H-H AIR CLEANER WAS THE ONLY ONE USED BEGINNING WITH THE STD 2N. FORD REVAMPED THE AIR CLEANER WITH THE 8N MODEL AND H-H WAS THE ONLY SUPPLIER AFTER 1949.


AFTERMARKET GENERIC 39-52 DECAL KIT SOLD TODAY:
<center><img src=https://cdn.mysagestore.com/8395aa2fa6cdfa6bfa7814f4bdd5a9e9/contents/39-FTRD/thumbnail/big_39-FTRD.jpg></center>


Tim Daley(MI)

Hello, I know this is an older post and Tim may not be able to respond. Tim posted a pic of the Donalson air cleaner decal, any chance someone may know where to find them. I searched through the FM decals and haven't found those ones. Thank you.

Adam.