1942 2n ammeter

[hoops]

Is ammeter bezel black or chrome on war model in addition to what design is face numbers and indicator (pointed vs squared off). Trying to be original
if possible. Thxs

 

[HCooke]

No chrome on 2Ns

 

[hoops]

Thxs.....how about indicator (pointed or blunt) and numbers on face?

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 17:06:27 07/02/21) Is ammeter bezel black or chrome on war model in addition to what design is face numbers and indicator (pointed vs squared off). Trying to be original
if possible. Thxs

rass bezel under black paint as from Tim Daley collection.

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

First, you do know that not all 2N's were warhorse models, right? Do you have a true steel-wheel/magneto warhorse? On February 10, 1942 all, and not just Ford, civilian US Production was shut down per the War Board directive. Production would then be only for wartime products. The warhorse model did not come out until late October,1942,and then were only built for a few months into 1943. By April, 1943, they were back ramping up to build a standard 2N model with rubber and electrics. Only approximately 10,000-12,000 warhorse models were actually built. This is one reason why restorers have a heck of a time trying to locate original parts. The AMMETER JMOR shows is an OEM 30A Induction gauge, and is good on 9N and 2N models, your included. The early 9N had chrome bezels. Note on the original the needle end starts at the 'horseshoe' window below the mid point of faceplate. The 8N changed so the needle end was now at the 6 O-Clock position on the faceplate. If you really want to get ambitious, try to locate the OEM 9N-10850-A AMMETER that was used on the first 4000 units in 1939. It was a 20/20 AMP unit that had four screw terminals on the back. Two were for wire conductors and two were for the mounting bracket. At or around s/n 9N-4000 the 30A Loop (Induction) Ammeter was introduced and also had a chrome bezel.

OEM FORD TRACTOR 9N-10850-A 20 AMP GAUGE:

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[hoops]

Appreciate your 2n history. My grandfather purchase his 2n in 1942. It came on steel wheels. I can remember that in late 40s he had an overdrive added. Have original receipt but at moment cant locate. Seems to me the figure was somewhere around seven or eight hundred, but that might have included a piece or two of equipment. Guess the original ammeter could have been either black or chrome.......? Thxs

 

[Den N Ms]

Hoops,If it was a true war model it never came with a amp gauge,generator or battery or a starter. It also had a magneto instead of a distributor and a front choke and was started with a hand crank.It just had a plug where the AMP gauge is in the dash.

 

[hoops]

Guys Im going have to find original receipt. Do know for fact it was bought in 1942. It did come on steel. How much my grandfather upgraded in the
forties I cant say. Still have crank that came with it. Side note: I remember him plowing black gumbo bottom land with two bottom plow that he hooked
team of horses onto tractor to help pull!!

 

[Tim PloughNman Daley]

Touch, DEN! I must be getting CRS in my old age as I knew there was something missing in hoops' question. NO Electrics on a warhorse 2N thus NO AMMETER. I suggest you first verify what the tractor serial number is. It isn't the definitive tell-all answer to what year you have as S/N only ID's the ENGINE BLOCK, though it was meant to also coincide with the vehicle model year, but many blocks got swapped out ... so don't rely on it as absolute proof. Next, steel wheels were available as 9N dealer optional accessories long before the warhorse model came out. Tractors used steel wheels years before they were on rubber. As I stated, all US production was halted on FEB 10, 1942 but Ford had built about 10,000 9N units in 1942 before then too. Inventory would've been allowed to be sold as only production was disallowed. Having an original bill of sale is priceless. There are no longer any records from FORD on tractor purchases so hang on to what you got. It may be possible your original bill of sale has your serial number on it so that is your absolute proof. Back to a true warhorse model and what else it had besides steel wheels. No electrics so no battery, no generator, no cutout, no starter motor, and no ammeter. The starter pocket on the block had a steel plate bolted on to cover up the vacant port. The dash had NO ammeter only a steel plate 'knockout' tack welded on the back of dash where the gauge would have gone. the carburetor used the Marvel-Schebler TSX-38 unit; identical to their standard 9N TSX-33 carb except it had a double throw choke lever. The reason was that in addition to the standard dash choke rod and lever, there was an added choke rod and lever with the knob thru a hole on the LH Dogleg. Why? Again, no electrics, so you need the hand crack to start the engine with. The 2N-17040 Hand Crank was a revamped 9N model only it had a wooden spinner handle and a spring loaded attachment so it could be left in the king pin. When starting, you could crank while pulling the added choke knob lever on the dogleg. Do you show a TSX-38 carb and/or the choke lever or maybe a hole where it was? The 2N warhorse used the Fairbanks FMJ-4B73 Magneto. The spark plug wires and conduit were different too. They were shorter as was the they now need to feed to the Magneto.

Here are some picture of a correctly restored 2N warhorse model done by Chris Eby and a picture of my original 2N-17040 Hand Crank. If pictures are too big don't blame me this time - I only copied them from a post done a few years ago.

FORD-FERGUSON 2N WARHORSE, RESTORED by CHRIS EBY:

2N WARHORSE HAND CRANK:

These would be the important items to look for on a true warhorse 2N Model. If you think your grandpa had one, these would be what to look for, but, I caution you too that many owners of warhorses switched over to standard electrics and rubber after the war so could have had standard items replacing warhorse parts. I'd try to locate your original Bill of Sale he had and save it, preserve it, cherish it, and make a copy/digital scan. A B-O-S would have steel wheels listed for sure.

Tim Daley(MI)

 

[DoubleO7]

What was that braid covered wire for, dangling over the steering rod on the right side???

On that correctly restored 2N.