1951 IH L-130

[jim dworschack]

I have the IH pick up listed above and am trying to learn some details about this great truck.

First question is that this is the long wheelbase unit and has a transmission installed in the driveshaft about a third of the way back. It looks like it could be a factory installation, but am wondering if it is. Does anyone know about this being a factory accessory or not?

Second, is there any way to get some more horsepower out of the 220 cid engine so it could be more usable for longer trips?

Thanks for any insights....

 

[rustyfarmall]

You're saying that the truck has 2 transmissions? Or just one, installed towards the rear?

 

[jim dworschack]

Yes, it has two transmissions; the 4 speed behind the clutch, then a short (about 15")driveshaft with two U joints, then what appears to be a professionally installed 3 speed and then another drive shaft back to the rear end.

Jim

 

[rustyfarmall]

(quoted from post at 16:59:21 02/17/14) Yes, it has two transmissions; the 4 speed behind the clutch, then a short (about 15")driveshaft with two U joints, then what appears to be a professionally installed 3 speed and then another drive shaft back to the rear end.

Jim

I won't say the 2nd tranny is NOT factory, but I think it would be highly unlikely. I've read some stories about the old time moonshiners who would install a 2nd tranny, except the 2nd one was installed backwards. This would effectively give them TWO overdrive gears so they could outrun the revenuers.

If the 2nd tranny is installed forwards, it would provide a couple of UNDER-DRIVE gears for more power.

 

[Coax]

I've got the same one but mines got a dump box on it. that 2nd tranny is a PTO driven pump for Dump or ramp. ( at least on mine...) it also has a 2 speed electric rear end.

I would'nt bet on long trips unless you change the the rear gears, these units are 2 ton boulder haulers you will get to 50mph on the HWY and thats it. I've got all the books on this so if you need anymore info i will try and accomodate.

 

[jim dworschack]

Thanks for the info. This trans is in the main (and only) driveshaft, so it appears as if someone wanted to gear this truck down even more than it is.

Thanks for the offer of info, I just may get back to you with more questions as I get into the project. First step this spring will be to get the unstuck so I can run/drive it. I don't think it is stuck hard as all valves are free.

A dump bed sure would be useful addition!

Jim

 

[jim dworschack]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. I didn't see it until today when I had another reply. I was relying on the email notification and just noted that I need to click that box below with every response in order to get the email notification.

The three speed is installed in the forward position, so it seems useful only in gearing down, not up. Wonder why anyone would have felt that would have been useful. Unless that 3 speed has a high gear that is actually more like an overdrive (something less than one to one.)

This spring I should be able to get it running/driving and can figure out more about this unit.

I am concluding that this has been skillfully added to the truck after IHC made it and that it is not factory. It is a nice job!

Thanks for your reply!

Jim Dworschack, Wisconsin

 

[Coax]

IH did make a Overdrive unit for these trucks, it's not common back in their day, most everybody never took em off the farm except to go to town. Mine was a County Road truck most it's life and then my friends dad bought it and ran it for another 20 years. I resurrected it out of the woods 2008 and use it around my farm for pulling stumps and Hauling gravel. You can't kill em, ( unless you don't feed em a dose of 30 weight every once in a while.....) enjoy

 

[Coax]

I'll consult my scrolls of knowlege and see if theres any data to that effect. and let u know....Keep your eyes on this thread, I'll let u know

 

[jim dworschack]

Was this overdrive the borg warner type with the planetary gears and the electric solenoid, usually mounted integrally with the transmission? Or was this overdrive a separate sort of two speed gear box?

Thanks again,

Jim

 

[Coax]

(reply to post at 08:35:35 03/02/14)

the 2speed is electric and resides on the rear pumpkin next to the drive shaft, I think it's BW, but i'll check..

 

[jim dworschack]

Ah, a two speed axle. I am a little familiar with those, I have a '48 Nash truck with one. At least on the Nash, the high speed gearing is the same ratio as the standard single speed axle that came with the trucks, so the other set of gearing available with the two speed axle was geared down from the standard available rear end. I wonder if it was the same way with the L-130?

Jim

 

[Coax]

Yes, depending how it came off the line, (dump truck/hay hauler/box truck/ P/u etc.....All I know is mine will crawl up a wall, but barely get up to 60mph. They also had 2-3 Transmission options you could get...mine has a PTO shaft that drives the Dump hydros. The really nice thing about it is that you can use parts off of the 110/120 series trucks to replace your stuff ( at least 80% anyway). You can get alot of info from www. Oldihc.org. also.....Google it, I think they changed servers...