1965 case 830 comfort king problems

[Toland88]

I just purchased this tractor out of the classifieds two days ago brought it home and started playing around with it. Everything runs good except the PTO. The guy I bought it off of said he had a new yoke put in it and said that the PTO clutch just needed tightened up. Is this all that needs done or is there something else??? You can turn the PTO by hand with tractor in neutral but there is no feeling at all in the PTO lever to engage it. Any help would be awesome!!! Thank you

 

[casecollectorsc]

Need to have a good snap to the lever to have it tight enough to operate. You need a manual to tighten the clutch...easier to look at then
tell how if you are not familiar with the tractor.

 

[Toland88]

(reply to post at 18:53:39 07/30/18)

thank you for the reply! I have been reading the manual, is there enough adjustment by taking the pin out with the fork tool and turning counterclockwise or is there only so much adjustment you can do by that method

 

[olgentdc]

There should be a 2 inch removable block on the right rear side of the
transmission .adjusting is done thru there by locating and pulling the spring
pin with a special CASE tool or homemade forked tire tool and rotating the PTO
to tighten the fine threads of the pto clutch pack .your tractor will need
threaded tighter perhaps 2 full turns before you feel some gain.and perhaps 2
full turns before the adjustment is satisfactory . Some tractors had a pipe plug
to gain entry.the removeable block was a much needed improvement but still
difficult.the pipe plug worked well enough for the seasoned service techs that
adjusted a couple per week and were in practice.The PTO usually will keep
spinning after being disengaged because the clutch plates warp and catch on one
another .Sadly , It is a safe bet a well adjusted PTO probably windmilled when
NEW . Often ,by the time a aged farmer had to adjust the PTO again a couple
years later He forgot how . Some then strongly considered trading the tractor
or just quitting. CASE tractors are simple and terrific for the young guy that
likes to tinker and adjust with his tools twice a year . When you considered the
PTO ,the seat mechanism and suspension that was quickly worn out on the Comfort
King,. and the power assist steering that is as problematic as the brakes.
other tractor makes had the edge over CASE. but they sure could not beat CASE
Diesels on reliability longivity, and power and fuel consumption .

 

[olgentdc]

the full range of adjustment is by that method .again , 35-50 ft lbs of pull is
normal to engage .The early eagle hitch models engaged with a decided over
center snap .sadly the only improvement the comfort king has over the earlier
model is less effort required to engage the PTO . And, the PTO is likely to
windmill regardless .prompting most to turn off the engine before connecting the
PTO implements. fertilizer spreaders , hay tedders ,post hole diggers are
problematic to say the least . i am told the WD allis employed a similar
system if you get stumped but you have a ALLIS man in your friend ranks or
neighborhood. All this said . You are way ahead Moneywise and in simplicity. I
Do know THAT , The PTOs on Massey's and J deere of the same era reaches 4
figures to repair and rebuild, The JD powershift only offers a cable
adjustment and they also windmill .Ford is probably no different than Massey ,
But IDNK?

 

[Toland88]

Today me and my old man dug into the
inspection hole, we engaged the PTO and
disengaged. We popped the pin out and
rotated the PTO counterclockwise to tighten
up the clutch. We still didn't have any
stiffness in the hand lever. It is still
very easy to move and has no snap at all.
We probably put a good 6 or 7 turns on the
clutches. Is there something that might be
wrong or did I not adjust it enough? Any
thoughts??

 

[Toland88]

Today me and my old man dug into the inspection hole, we engaged the PTO and disengaged. We popped the pin out and rotated the PTO counterclockwise to tighten up the clutch. We still didn't have any stiffness in the hand lever. It is still very easy to move and has no snap at all. We probably put a good 6 or 7 turns on the clutches. Is there something that might be wrong or did I not adjust it enough? Any thoughts??

 

[olgentdc]

you should have felt some improvement in that much travel unless others told you ccwise ..?Maybe you should crank it clockwise ,. i am not sure

 

[Don Rudolph]

It's possible that a pin (or 2) wore out or fell out of the engaging clutch mechanism. Or, a chain link in that mechanism broke. I've seen both. Don

 

[olgentdc]

me too

 

[Kav]

Didn't some of the 830 PTO adjusters turn the opposite way? Maybe you have one with the left hand thread. Just a thought.
Kav.