202 Trans rebuild question

[BIG1RED9]

Initially I planned to just replace the clutch and input shaft seal. I noticed a cracked shift fork and do I decided to rebuild the transmission. The rear section is being rebuilt as well.

After replacing the countershaft and main shaft bearings and installed into the case, I notice that both shafts slide right to left about an 1/8”.

Is this typical and to be expected?

Thank you
Don

 

[BIG1RED9]

I will turn or shim the shafts / bearings to reduce the play. I learned that Loctite 680 is a retainer product in part used for case to bearing application.

 

[Harry in Ky]

Loctite 680 may well be a great product, but it won't take up 1/8" of play. We know it has a clutch, but for any meaningful help you might want to specify just which transmission you have. There were a few different options on those tractors.

 

[BIG1RED9]

The play I am taking out is between the bearing and case which has a minor ( thousandth) which allows the bearing to move laterally about 1/8”.

 

[BIG1RED9]

Loctite 680 may well be a great product, but it won't take up 1/8" of play. We know it has a clutch, but for any meaningful help you might want to specify just which transmission you have. There were a few different options on those tractors.

6 speed single 9” clutch.

 

[Harry in Ky]

Well you have me confused. No way .001 clearance will allow 1/8" of lateral movement.

 

[used red MN]

The play I am taking out is between the bearing and case which has a minor ( thousandth) which allows the bearing to move laterally about 1/8”.

I think your technical descriptions are not correct. Lateral movement usually refers to a movement about the axis or centerline of a shaft. So if one shaft is parallel to another and one shaft moves closer to the other then that is a lateral movement. You are sayin the shaft moves an 1/8” meaning its bearings are allowing it to slide in their bores end to end. The ends of the tractor are the front end (radiator) and the back end the seat or hitch. The sides of the tractor are to the left and right sitting in the seat. I think you referred to it as seen when you step up to the side of the transmission.

 

[BIG1RED9]

Loctite 680 did what I had hoped for. I doubt there will be a need to verify its continued integrity down the road.

 

[BIG1RED9]

Entering from the inspection plate, I am planning to To adjust the pressure plate fingers as described in a search loosen the locking nuts on the adjustment bolts, then use a feeler gauge to set the gap between the pressure plate fingers and the clutch plate to the specified factory setting, typically around 0.09 inches (2.2mm); ensure all three fingers are adjusted evenly, and then tighten the locking nuts securely.

 

[Jim.ME]

Entering from the inspection plate, I am planning to To adjust the pressure plate fingers as described in a search loosen the locking nuts on the adjustment bolts, then use a feeler gauge to set the gap between the pressure plate fingers and the clutch plate to the specified factory setting, typically around 0.09 inches (2.2mm); ensure all three fingers are adjusted evenly, and then tighten the locking nuts securely.

This doesn't sound right. Using a feeler gauge to set the clearance at .090" sounds like adjusting the release bolts of the PTO clutch inside a dual stage clutch, you have a single stage clutch, don't you? For most clutches traction clutch finger height should have been checked/adjusted using a gauge after the clutch was installed on the flywheel and the tractor was split. Then after the tractor was together pedal free play is set. Free play it the distance between the pressure plate fingers and the throwout bearing. Many Masseys of your vintage that was done by turning the shaft the pedal is on.

 

[BIG1RED9]

This doesn't sound right. Using a feeler gauge to set the clearance at .090" sounds like adjusting the release bolts of the PTO clutch inside a dual stage clutch, you have a single stage clutch, don't you? For most clutches traction clutch finger height should have been checked/adjusted using a gauge after the clutch was installed on the flywheel and the tractor was split. Then after the tractor was together pedal free play is set. Free play it the distance between the pressure plate fingers and the throwout bearing. Many Masseys of your vintage that was done by turning the shaft the pedal is on.

It is a single stage clutch. I did not check clearance on the new clutch/pressure plate as posts had said they are factory adjusted. Is this something I can do via the inspection cover?

 

[Jim.ME]

It is a single stage clutch. I did not check clearance on the new clutch/pressure plate as posts had said they are factory adjusted. Is this something I can do via the inspection cover?

At this point you need to go with the theory they are ok. A single stage clutch does not use a feeler gauge for adjustment. Your 202 service manual should cover the single stage clutch. In any case, the info Dieseltech is giving you about setting the pedal free play, is what you need to be doing.

It will be best to keep your ongoing clutch discussion in your thread about the clutch, to avoid confusion.