276 knotter problems

[Erik OK]

My 276 baler misses knots on the right side, the top twine will have a loop on it but the needle twine will not, it will bale 5-10 bales and then 2-3 open then start baling again. I have checked twine disc timing and just replaced knives and adjusted knife arms. I'm guessing its something to do with twine fingers missing the twine fingers. I never have to retread the needles it always starts tying again. When it ties the tails on the knots are shorter on the side that misses. What should I check next, I have a manual and have looked at the knotter troubleshooting section but I haven't been able to solve my problem.

 

[Tom in TN]

Erik,

I'm neither smart enough to offer technical advice, nor am I able to explain in understandable language what I think might be wrong.

But I do have a very sage piece of advice. New Holland made a training movie back in the 1950's or 1960's that explains the operation of the knotter. That training video is on youtube. It is invaluable to understanding all of the various components of the knotter.

If you haven't already done so, you would be very wise to go to youtube and then search on New Holland knotter. Then, using your manual, you can make adjustments that make sense rather than simply making them because the manual says so.

Good luck,

Tom in TN

 

[farmeroz]

I was just having the same problem, it would let a knot on the bale top twine. I rechecked the timing and reset the needle tighter to knotter frame and closer to the twine holder. Did a small trial the other day and made 10 bales in a row. I should be able to cut more soon so here's hoping it works.

 

[old]

My 271 was doing the same thing this year and I sharpen the twine knife and also made sure the swipe that goes over the bill hook was set tight and after doing that it did not miss a bale in 200 plus

 

[DeltaRed]

OK.The problem is probably the twine finger spaceing,'swing'.The twine is not getting pushed to the billhook.Or not. Baler knotters are too complex and 'finiky' to properly diagnose here.We try....Buy a book.Start at the 'top',adjust the knotters acording to the book.Ist not hard,just takes a little time.Old baler knotters are usually all massed up because everybody gets out a wrench and 'adjusts' everything the first time it misses a knot.So everything is so out of wack it a wonder it even ties at all!So,unless parts are WORN OUT,the baler will work if it is adjusted properly'by the book'.

 

[RickB]

Adjusting knotters " by the book" cannot be stressed enough. Making knotter adjustments IN THE PROPER ORDER is very important because some adjustments alter others. The immediate probelem could be related to one or more of several knotter adjustments, A needle out of adjustment, a broken or missing hay dog or dog spring, or somethine else. A $20 operator's manual could save many dollars worth of hay and stress.
NH manuals are available for immediate pdf download so there is no wait for a hard copy order processing & shipping.
publication 42027612

 

[1130Leo]

I had similar problems, after checking everything else I found that the tension plates, (likely wrong name) any ways the ones that are mounted to the twine box, the twine goes thru the plates and down the insulators, those plates were worn thru, i swapped the ones from my parts baler, never missed another knot, it's worth checking. Good luck!

 

[Hay hay hay]

It sounds silly, but be sure you have the spring holding the knotter frame down. I see no mention of it in the manual, but my NH 276 won't bale without it. Baled 300 yesterday w/o a miss.

These knotters are weird critters. My NH 276 drove me crazy for a while, and I made lots of adjustments. Something worked and the knotters started tieing reliably. Sure wish i knew how I fixed it.