3 point Backhoe on JD 2020

[Jeffevenson85]

Hey all. I recently bought a John Deere 2020. I’m looking into purchasing a 3 point backhoe for it. There’s two models I’m looking at and interested in. The first is an ARPS 730, the other is a Kelly model B60. They seem to be about the same size, approximately 1500lbs. Just curious if anyone has experience with either of these units and size compatibility to the tractor. Thanks

 

[Tx Jim]

Be sure any hyd valve attached to 2020 hyd system is designed for the 2020 closed center hyd system.

 

[Jeffevenson85]

I believe it has the closed center plug in the control valve, if not I have the info on how to convert it to a closed center system. I know there can be big issues cause by mixing the two.

 

[ss55]

Hey all. I recently bought a John Deere 2020. I’m looking into purchasing a 3 point backhoe for it. There’s two models I’m looking at and interested in. The first is an ARPS 730, the other is a Kelly model B60. They seem to be about the same size, approximately 1500lbs. Just curious if anyone has experience with either of these units and size compatibility to the tractor. Thanks

JD 400 is the industrial tractor equivalent of your 2020 Ag tractor. Many 400s were sold with back hoes and industrial front end loaders, but the back hoes and loaders were mounted to the tractor with some very sturdy brackets compared to the ag versions.

If all the back hoes forces are carried by your tractors three point hitch A frame, a strong back hoe could rip your tractor's the three point hitch A frame apart.

 

[Bill in Colo]

2010 are prone to breaking the transmission with loaders and heavy wt on the 3pt

 

[showcrop]

Ask about a subframe mount instead of three point.

 

[kencombs]

Ask about a subframe mount instead of three point.

I'd do that too. No experience with that model, but have seen and worked on smaller tractors the were broken badly with hoes on the three pt only.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

I'd do that too. No experience with that model, but have seen and worked on smaller tractors the were broken badly with hoes on the three pt only.

I don't think any backhoe manufacturers are making subframes to fit 55 year old tractors. Nothing stopping you from fabricating your own, though.

 

[paul]

A 3pt backhoe puts a teeter todder type of pressure on the tractor.

The main stress points are the top link ears of the tractor, which would be like the middle pivot of a teeter todder. It absorbs the full weight of both ends of the teeter. I would want a very robust type of top link, not just a bump on a casting or cantilevered ears.

And as the backhoe reaches out and digs far away from the tractor, the other end of the teeter todder ends up being the area where the engine and the transmission meet. About where your feet are when you are sitting on the tractor. To make sitting on the tractor easier, this is often a rather low narrow connection, with just a few bolts clamping the front to the back. The larger (vertically) and the more bolts on bigger cast ears this area has, the better able your tractor is able to survive a 3pt backhoe.

As we dig we tend to get aggressive to get a job done, and as we jerk and strain and slam through obstacles we put severe stress on these 2 places.

Is your tractor strong or weak in those spots.

A backhoe frame goes under and ties the front engine frame to the back end, and supplies a strong mounting for the top of the backhoe, eliminating those 2 high stress points from your tractor.

Paul

 

[JDIH]

Got an arps 730 I occasionally use on a 2440. It's a lot of weight swinging around back there. It does work though. The tractor has plenty of power to run it but you need to drive really slow and have the arm tucked in tight. I'm not sure about putting one on a 2020. That's apparently a little smaller tractor yet

 

[m16ty]

Personally, I’ve never been a fan or 3-point mounted backhoes. They are just too hard on the tractor. I would suggest buying a complete loader/backhoe or a mini-ex.