4010 clutch

[J R]

Hello, not new to work but I took or replaced my clutch on my 4010. My question is, does the cone on the drive clutch go towards the flywheel or the transmission?

When taking old one out it fell onto the shop floor. I think the drive clutch cone goes towards the rear but not 100 percent sure. I’ve got two of these tractors and both are propane they are great for my little place.

Thanks for your help. J R

 

[grwrench]

hello,, the cone side goes toward the pilot bearing..

 

[J R]

Thank you Jim,

We had to drive into Pueblo yesterday and I stopped by 4 Rivers, the JD house and they sent me a picture from the manual this morning of it. Not too good of one but the flat side is facing the pot clutch. I tried and tried and could get it whithin 2.5 inches of the rear and had to stop.

Thank you again for the information. I have taken the sterring motor out and replaced the seal and while I had it out, I rebuilt the pump there also. I wish engineers had to work on these things, they wouldn't make them the way they are but it gives me something to do other than watching the grass grow.

Take care, J R

 

[J R]

hello,, the cone side goes toward the pilot bearing..

Jim, thanks for your information but. I got it all together and lack about an inch and a quarter for the two halves being together. So I took clutch off now for the fourth time and put new and old on welding table. I have a difference of an inch and ⅜ measuring in center from old to new clutch.

I got the clutch from all states ag parts . I had to leave a message again today and still haven’t heard back from them.

Do you think they sent me the wrong clutch?

Thanks J R

 

[Tx Jim]

In today's "almost correct parts" anything is possible.

While attempting to rejoin tractor halves where both halves parallel to each other & when halves were close together did you put trans in gear then rotate flywheel with a bar or flat screw driver? Also did you rotate rear pto shaft at this time?

 

[J R]

In today's "almost correct parts" anything is possible.

While attempting to rejoin tractor halves where both halves parallel to each other & when halves were close together did you put trans in gear then rotate flywheel with a bar or flat screw driver? Also did you rotate rear pto shaft at this time?

Yes I had both sides within ⅛ inch top and bottom. I rotated pto shaft as best I could. I hooked the starter up and turned it over by a remote switch while pushing or pulling on front.

Jim I found it. Maybe two problems. One was a spline on pto clutch it looks like it wasn’t finished? I probably cut it with a file down 3/8 of a inch. The other is the shaft for the drive clutch was out by an inch. I pushed on it and it went in a good inch maybe more.

Sorry I guess I didn’t hit send but it came together now. I pushed and turned until about ½ inch then I got a couple of clamps and it went together easily. Got the bolts tightened up with a 5 foot cheater bar. I will let you know how it goes.

Thanks again. J R

 

[Tx Jim]

Congratulations on your repair. Thank you for updating your thread with the good results which BIW few people perform that simple task.

 

[J R]

Jim, I got it going good. It bolted up great. PTO and drive clutches

Congratulations on your repair. Thank you for updating your thread with the good results which BIW few people perform that simple task.

Jim, got it going good today. Bolted right up PTO and drive clutch work great. Tested on feed grinder, good. Drove around and pulled a wagon and it worked perfectly.

Just that drive shaft sticking out was the cause of it not going together all the way. Live and learn. Manual says nothing about it at all.

Thanks again for your help Jim, I appreciate it very much. J R

 

[Tx Jim]

You're welcome

 

[grwrench]

hello,, if you let the driveshaft come OUT very far,, a thrust washer WILL fall down so that you CANNOT get the tractor back together until you split the tractor at the transmission to relocate the washer.. this can happen on the 3010 & 4010 tractors..

 

[J R]

hello,, if you let the driveshaft come OUT very far,, a thrust washer WILL fall down so that you CANNOT get the tractor back together until you split the tractor at the transmission to relocate the washer.. this can happen on the 3010 & 4010 tractors..

Thank you. The shaft went back in all the way I didn’t have any problems with the two halves, I guess them within a ½ inch then used a clamp on the two halves and with very little pressure I brought them together. Tractor moves back and forth. I drove it around field yesterday in all gears.

Should I open transmission and look at it?

Thanks J R

 

[Boowah]

Thank you. The shaft went back in all the way I didn’t have any problems with the two halves, I guess them within a ½ inch then used a clamp on the two halves and with very little pressure I brought them together. Tractor moves back and forth. I drove it around field yesterday in all gears.

Should I open transmission and look at it?

Thanks J R

no, drive it.

 

[J R]

no, drive it.

Thank you. When I pulled the floor pan up it looks like someone had to go into it at one time. I bought this about 21 years ago and had good luck with it. My grandson helped me with haying and needles to say I had to put a clutch in it

Thanks for sharing and your help. J R

 

[trackrat]

Be very careful when you put a jd of that model back together when I was the shop foreman of a jd dealer the dealer in the next town over put a 4020 clutch in didnt get it all lined up right broke the housing . the owner would not let them redo the tractor. Of course my brilliant boss took the job to fix the tractor. Lawsuit 35grand and almost one years' time later got the whole rear end rebuilt . Don't ever want to get into anything like that again, lawyers and getting yelled at from both ends to many headaches

 

[J R]

Be very careful when you put a jd of that model back together when I was the shop foreman of a jd dealer the dealer in the next town over put a 4020 clutch in didnt get it all lined up right broke the housing . the owner would not let them redo the tractor. Of course my brilliant boss took the job to fix the tractor. Lawsuit 35grand and almost one years' time later got the whole rear end rebuilt . Don't ever want to get into anything like that again, lawyers and getting yelled at from both ends to many headaches

Hello. I made some big pins, 4 of them to guide both halves back together. I could roll the halves back together except ½ inch. I tried and tried then got a C clamp and with very little twisting it came together. I hooked up the lines , put 6 big bolts in, hooked wires up and started it. PTO worked great, I put the grinder on it and it turned with no effort.

I dove into the field and worked all the gears, did good again. I pulled it in the shop and took the floor pan off of it and found some silicon gasket maker stuff around the top plate of transmission? Maybe someone before I got it put a clutch in it?

I don’t want for it to break because of a washer. I’ve been told to drive it but I just can’t quite stop thinking about that washer. Can I get to it by that top transmission cover?

If it is off, the thrust washer, I know I have to split tractor again and slide drive shaft out to put it in.

I have my other 4010 I can use if I need to. I’m retired, or so, so and like working on these things. I’ve already put a new steering motor seal in it and rebuilt the hydraulic pump with no problem and replaced the rear seal while clutch was out.

Thank you all so much for your help in advance. Just some little question's.

Thank you. J. R.