450 jd or case

[rick n ohio]

i would some day like to get a small dozer something like a jd 450 or a case 450 which would be a better buy.
RICK

 

[John730D]

Case, hands down.

 

[newhollandnut]

A lot depends on year and price range. I would side with case for the ability to steer with your hands. On the other hand I am really partial to a decelerater which you will not find on a case. If you are looking for a newer style machine I would try to find a Deere with hystat. Also a Deere 450 will be a little bit bigger than a case 450. All in all the both have strong points. Just see what your wallet and availability will let you do

 

[dozerbill66]

(quoted from post at 19:07:20 03/11/17) i would some day like to get a small dozer something like a jd 450 or a case 450 which would be a better buy.
RICK

450 Case , I have a 1968 and a 1970 450's and they still run and operate like they should , case will run circles around the same year John Deer , 450 John Deer was slow from going forward to reverse , Case is like a Bumble Bee fast , quick , repairs are cheaper and easier to do on the Case . Above all stay away from Hystat , contamination , metal slivers will destroy all pumps and cost more than the machine is worth to repair .

 

[JDEM]

JD450 is a nice machine If in nice shape. I have seen many though with balancing-shaft problems in the engine or serious HL-R problems that would cost a fortune to fix. Deere 450s often go to auction when they get that way because they will work great when cold. Once hot - no engine oil-pressure or the HL-L just stops working. If a wet-clutch machine (C or newer) often a weak HL-R will ruin the steering-clutches. Note when correct - they do NOT shift slow from forward to reverse. We had many new 450Cs that shifted too fast. I'd take a Case if in decent shape over the Deere

 

[RBoots]

I always thought the shifts on the JD's were a herky-jerky annoying ride

 

[timbernt]

When you need parts for the older Deere dozers the dealer will tell you it is obsolete and move on to the next customer.

 

[JDEM]

450 with the HL-R has a rate-of-shift adjuster-nut under the floorboard. It would often come loose and the shift would either get too fast or too slow. 350 has the same but it is in the control-valve body and a screwdriver slot instead of a hex-nut.

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

later ones can have both throttle styles, the 550E rubber track I had had a decelerator, I like both styles
cnt

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

I have been around the Case 450's since we sold the first one in 1968 I really like them myself and have one today on the farm,, she came from a construction company in Utah, it must have 20,000 hrs on it but still performs like it should, great power and speed for the size like stated below, few pics of her opening up deep hard packed drifted snow this winter
cnt

 

[marloweg]

case

 

[Welding man]

Case hands down for me,but if you do settle on a Deere,Do not get a 450 or a 450B --Dry steering clutches will drive you crazy. Get a C or newer.

 

[jdtractor]

Deere and only Deere. I've run the both and imo there's no comparison. The case may do the job but if you plan on doing long hard work you better pack a sleeping bag and lunch. They are built lighter and weaker where it matters for work..I've worked beside the same year tractors and case was always looking at what was left.. As far as hydrasta....they are the way to go as far as production... all new tractors with this feature are less wear on the operator and the machine...the comment was made that they are slow and jerky ... true to some degree but you are on a dozer and a lot has to do with the operator. .... It's ur money but trade in and resale also can be a benefit. You get what you pay for .... I'm not trying to start any arguments... I just think Deere is the better tractor of which this article asked. Just my .02 cents.

 

[Mike M]

One of the features I liked on the Case was the hi-lo track allows you to keep power to both tracks while in a turn.