6000

[pomester]

not associated and not interested, but someone might be

https://tippecanoe.craigslist.org/grd/d/delphi-ford-6000-tractor-diesel-67hp/6839039947.html

sorry, don't know how to make a hot link -

David

 

[Bern]

Sounds like a fair price if everything works. It's a '63 or '64 model by its appearance.

 

[Royse]

Here you are. [b:88e96c931e]Link to 6000[/b:88e96c931e]

 

[agjim]

I'd say it a '61 or '62 rebuilt tractor.

 

[Bern]

I'd agree with you if there was more red showing than just on the engine. More likely that machine had the engine swapped at some point in its past.

My '65 Commander has red paint showing through the steps, because evidently someone wanted the early swivel steps on it instead of the rigid later ones.

I even have some factory literature for the '63-'64 models that shows a tiny bit of red on the backside of one machine where evidently the paint flaked off before they took the pics.

 

[sunbeam]

I worked for a ford dealer in the 70s oh how I hated to see one come in.

 

[Bern]

I would have liked it myself. After a while 5000s get a little boring.

I started working at a dealership in 1985. By then, most 6000s were retired, so I never got to work on one there.

 

[WayneIA]

Was working at a dealership when they were introduced. "field ready" with a oily spot on the floor after a day setting there. When Ford replace the whole tract a customer didn't want to let his go back so we totally rebuilt it at the dealership

 

[Destroked 450]

A little red showing on the front axle to, but probably been swapped from narrow to wide axle.

 

[Ultradog MN]

I would Not haul a 6500 lb tractor on a
7000 lb trailer.

 

[Bern]

Not only that, most 6000 tractors weigh much more than 6500 pounds. They could be ballasted to well over 9000 pounds with cast iron and liquid weight.

 

[Royse]

"I would Not haul a 6500 lb tractor on a 7000 lb trailer."

You are spot on. Unless your trailer only weighed 500 pounds,
you'd be over the weight rating for the trailer's axles.

 

[Fordfarmer]

Aw, it'll handle it - just load her heavy on the tongue. 🙄
If theis post was on Tractor Talk, the YTDOT would have a field day with it.
I'm going to look it up when I get in from there barn, but I think a 6000's unbalasted weight is close to 6500 pounds, and it looks like upwards of 500 pounds of weights on that one.

 

[Bern]

According to my Commander lit, an all-purpose "standard equipped diesel" weighs 7300 pounds. That said, the '63-'64 lit shows that same tractor as weighing 6750.

So, let's split the difference and say that a 6000 weighs 7000 pounds from factory. A person could add 1200 pounds of rear wheel weight, and 720 pounds of front end weight (front wafer weights plus wheel weights). If you add all of these up, this is almost 2000 pounds of iron that could be hung on this tractor, not including any liquid ballast.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Not only YTDOT but MNDOT - with all the accompanying Swat teams and savagely barking police dogs.
Hard to believe its been nearly 9 years already

 

[Fordfarmer]

'Farm Tractors 1950 - 1975' by Lester Larson lists the 6000 (utility pictured) as 7405# unbalasted, and the Commander (w.f rowcrop pictured) as 7130. Either way, well above the 6500# listed in the ad, even before you figure in the cast iron hanging on it.
I would have expected the Commander to be a little heavier.

 

[Fordfarmer]

It IS hard to believe it was that long ago!
And that thing has been put on the back burner so many times, it's still not done. (Clutch for the 7000, engine swap in the 2000, Luke's 4000...)But it is close... I think about all that's left is to get it its own battery, and get spark to the plugs. IIRC, it had spark, but not while cranking.
I like sotxbill's comment.

 

[sunbeam]

If you own one of these tractors and have children around please exhaust the hydraulic accumulator when parking. I remember a case where 2 kids were playing on the tractor one moved the 3 point lever and the other was caught in the linkage.

 

[Bern]

Why would you expect a Commander to weigh more? The only major difference between the two generations is in the styling of the front nose piece.

 

[Fordfarmer]

I thought the rear end was redesigned, (differential? Axles? Both?) with bigger/stronger components.

 

[Bern]

They changed the final drive ratio in the back and made the ring and pinion a little bigger, but I'm not aware that they significantly beefed up any components. Not 600 pounds worth anyway.

I do know that they made the rear wheels lighter on the later models. My two rear wheels have different part numbers, one is a C0NN and the other is a C3NN. The C0NN has noticeably more iron in it - I found that out the hard way when I was painting them.