641 Remote hydraulics source

[46Chev]

I went to a couple of fairs recently and saw what looks like factory remote hydraulics with rear ports on a NAA and a 800 series. Ofcourse it was attached to the pump housing beneath the seat. Mine just has a plate with some plugs. When using this type of remote, does it render the lift useless or can it be used together? Anyway, I wasn"t aware this was an option and would like to pursue this. Does anyone make an aftermarket kit? Where would I begin?

 

[Dean]

Remote hydraulic valves were sold both by Ford and aftermarket suppliers for use on your 641.

An inexpensive diverter valve does disable the lift while the remote system is functioning but remote valve units were made that allow operation of both the lift and the remote unit.

Such valves show up on ebay and other tractor parts ad forums from time to time but I have seen few available lately.

TISCO still offers both single and dual remote valves to fit your Ford but the kits are expensive.

Dean

 

[Ultradog MN]

Depends on whether you have an NAA or a 600.
Ford did make a remote valve for the NAAs but they are rarer than hen's teeth.
One of the more significant upgrades from the NAA to the Hundreds was a better hydraulic system.
Remote valves for a Hundred series are very common and they just bolt on top of the lift cover and do not affect the 3 point. They can be had in either single handle or double handle. The very same valve will fit most of the smaller Fords from 1955 through 1982. Not cheap - a single will run you most of $200 and a double will be around $400. There is a single remote on the classifieds here right now. Asking price is $225 + shipping. Just do a search in the classifieds for Ford in CT. Board member Vito has it for sale.
I have traded with Vito before and you can buy with confidence from him.

 

[46Chev]

Come to think of it, they may have both been 800's. I have to admit that my knowledge of hydraulic setups is novice. That said, what is the difference in a single or double control valve? Is it that a double allows the operation of 2 separate pieces of equipment? Thanks for the answers!

 

[Fordfarmer]

Yes - you can operate two cylinders (or pairs of cylinders) with the double valve... like the lift and dump cylinders on a loader, or the lift and fold cylinders on a piece of equipment with wings. Probably won't worry about winged equipment when using a 6/800 sized tractor.

 

[Dean]

As FF has already told you, a double (dual) remote valve allows one to operate two, separate remote hydraulic cylinders. Such valves will have 4 hose ports and two control handles.

Many valve (and tractor) sellers incorrectly advertise "dual remotes" simply because the valve has two (dual) hydraulic connections, enabling one to operate a single double acting cylinder. Such systems are in fact single remote systems.

Dean

 

[Vito]

Jerry,
That valve was purchased by the gentleman you sold your 3600 to.

Vito

 

[46Chev]

Ultradog, checked with the current ad by Vito but it's sold. I was able to find some kits from external_link in an old catalog. But then I got confused when one page started listing adapter plates, depressed, or non-depressed centers. Not sure, but it looks like my current spring seat would not have the clearance for the valves unless I blocked it higher or got something different. Pretty expensive $500 up.

What I'd really like is to have some down pressure with a top link cylinder. I haven't seen this setup but wasn't sure how it would work with the current lift system. Like if you were not careful you could bind something. Also not sure if the top link attachment was set up to handle that type of stress. Any thoughts?

 

[Ultradog MN]

A hydraulic top link is a Very handy item to have on your tractor. No more reaching around from the seat and trying to adjust that turnbuckle by hand.
But,
It will not give you down pressure on your implement. All it will do is adjust the angle of the implement.
There is such a thing for adding down pressure to your lower lift arms. I believe it is a pair of hydraulic cylinders that attach each side from the rear axle to the upper lift arms to pull the 3 point down. Gannon Company - maybe in Calif - made a set up, along with a heavy duty box blade with scarifier teeth for ripping up soil. Aside from the very common hydraulic remote valve I doubt you would find an off the shelf kit to add downpressure to your tractor.
Photo is of a hyd toplink I made for my tractor a couple of years ago.
I would weep if I ever had to go back to a turnbuckle.

 

[Dean]

A hydraulic top link is a handy device for some tasks, e.g., slip scoop, box blade, etc., but it CANNOT be used to provide down pressure.

Dean

 

[wmorgan]

there is an adapter plate made for extra hydraulics on the 600 series. Check with this forums store,or Walts Tractors. It fits under the existing plate. Mine is just in and out for oil, but some are available with built in valves.

 

[46Chev]

Are the adapter plates specific for each brand of hydraulic remote or is it a one plate fits all situation?

 

[wmorgan]

The plate I got for my 641 was listed for all the hundred series, I think that it would fit Jubilee and Naa. Google Ford tractor hydraulics, You may have to go way down the listings,

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 17:05:46 09/14/11) The plate I got for my 641 was listed for all the hundred series, I think that it would fit Jubilee and Naa. Google Ford tractor hydraulics, You may have to go way down the listings,

orry, hundred series will not fit NAA/Jube.

 

[wmorgan]

I just looked on the forums catalog. The plate is listed as hydraulic adapter plate. About $90.Call and ask any questions.They have been great when I purchased from them. Good luck.