7" curved lens lights

[Michael V (NM)]

I'm looking for parts for a curved lens 7" curved lens, would like to find reflectors, and 12V bulbs. Internet searches,stiner,etc. only show parts for the flat lens 7"
oh,, for a 1952-3 model U/UT

 

[DPittman]

Don’t know if it’s correct or not but the Moline discussion among the gurus about the correct headlight for letter series concluded the 52-53 U would have a 5” curved lens.

This debate took place under a shade tree at ATA show in Pinckneyville Illinois last time MM was the feature tractor.
In that discussion I interjected that from the things I’ve heard about on MM assembly lines if the worker was putting on 5” curved lens headlights and he came across a box of 7” flats in his supply pile, they went on the tractor and it shipped
Nobody argued with me

 

[molinegb]

From 38-51 7 inch Guide flat lens. 1952 -3 5 3/4 curved lens with 6v bulb. Early 1953 12v 5 3/4 with curved lens until sealed beams.

 

[Rich'sToys]

As mentioned, the curved lenses were 5 3/4". I've never seen a 7" curved lens.

 

[Dennis P]

Probably lights off early automobile. I have never seen 7” curved lights on an MM or any other tractor. Anyway, I think the 7” lights look better anyway!

 

[Alan K]

There were some curved 7" lenses on some of the MMs in the 1940s. Not a lot of them out there but I have a couple that way that were off of a U.

 

[yonson]

Parts books for the ZA indicate at what serial number the change from 7" flat lens to 5 3/4" curved lens officially took place, about 3/4 of the way through the 1950 model run. I am assuming that other models did likewise but don't have 1951 parts books to verify. Flote-Ride seats were intro'ed at the same time. There may have been exceptions that occurred unofficially. Also, who can say what the dealerships may have done by customer request in order to move tractors in stock.

 

[Michael V (NM)]

Ok,,here's what's on the tractor,, right,wrong, or whatever, not gonna argue that point, their close to 75 years old,, lotsa things could happened. The wiring on this old U is actually decent for its age...
I'd like to find the correct reflector and prolly gonna go with 12V, and yes,, they measure 7 inches across the lens
This is actually 2 different tractors..one is what I'd call a 'standard' or wheatland, the other is a row crop...

 

[Michael V (NM)]

The day they came here
I guess I can only put 3 pictures....

 

[Alan K]

Ok,,here's what's on the tractor,, right,wrong, or whatever, not gonna argue that point, their close to 75 years old,, lotsa things could happened. The wiring on this old U is actually decent for its age...
I'd like to find the correct reflector and prolly gonna go with 12V, and yes,, they measure 7 inches across the lens
This is actually 2 different tractors..one is what I'd call a 'standard' or wheatland, the other is a row crop...

They are original. Come to think of it, most, not all, but most of the round lens 7" ones seem to show up on the standards. Some ended up on the row crops also.

 

[molinegb]

There were some curved 7" lenses on some of the MMs in the 1940s. Not a lot of them out there but I have a couple that way that were off of a U.

There were some curved 7" lenses on some of the MMs in the 1940s. Not a lot of them out there but I have a couple that way that were off of a U.

Never seen 7 inch curved on a MM. Have almost every year of U. Probably lens changed off another make.

There were some curved 7" lenses on some of the MMs in the 1940s. Not a lot of them out there but I have a couple that way that were off of a U.

Never seen a curved lens on any in 40's.

I'm looking for parts for a curved lens 7" curved lens, would like to find reflectors, and 12V bulbs. Internet searches,stiner,etc. only show parts for the flat lens 7"
oh,, for a 1952-3 model U/UT

Should be a part nunber in lens. MM did some odd stuff in 52-3. when changing from 6v to 12v. Mid 1952 is a memo on changes made like starter, flywheel and dash. Early 53 hood was changed to flat sides, pressurized cooling and hump in axle.and 12v. May be easier to find lens off another make. MM may have stuck curved lens in old 7 " bucket. Had this issue on a late 52 UTE. Massey 55 used.

 

[Michael V (NM)]

I guess another picture not gonna work

 

[Dennis P]

I'm looking for parts for a curved lens 7" curved lens, would like to find reflectors, and 12V bulbs. Internet searches,stiner,etc. only show parts for the flat lens 7"
oh,, for a 1952-3 model U/UT

To answer your question, I buy headlight parts through Korves Oliver’s. You can also get kits to change from bayonet type bulb to newer standard bulbs( not sealed beam). Talk with them about your lights.

 

[DPittman]

All this discussion got me curious as to what I have in inventory. In my rummaging I did find a 7” curved lens that came in a box of extra stuff I got when I bought an R. Just got the lens and the band that holds it on so who knows what it came off of. The box also had a bracket that mounts the rear work light so maybe that’s what he was thinking about.
More curious was in all that inventory I could not find a single 7” flat even though I know I got some. They got put some place where they would be safe and I knew I could find them.

 

[Ill John]

All this discussion got me curious as to what I have in inventory. In my rummaging I did find a 7” curved lens that came in a box of extra stuff I got when I bought an R. Just got the lens and the band that holds it on so who knows what it came off of. The box also had a bracket that mounts the rear work light so maybe that’s what he was thinking about.
More curious was in all that inventory I could not find a single 7” flat even though I know I got some. They got put some place where they would be safe and I knew I could find them.

I have a lot of parts in a safe place where I can find them, SOMEWHERE!!!

 

[molinegb]

Had 2 NOS 7 inch curved in boxes. Can't find them. Had a MM 10P122 part #. Also used on GTB.

 

[yonson]

10P122 not found in ZA parts books. 10P123 was the part# for 7" flat lens (was JT9163 before 1951).

 

[molinegb]

10P122 not found in ZA parts books. 10P123 was the part# for 7" flat lens (was JT9163 before 1951).

Microfiche shows RTI and ZA. Manuals do not.

 

[rustred]

Ok,,here's what's on the tractor,, right,wrong, or whatever, not gonna argue that point, their close to 75 years old,, lotsa things could happened. The wiring on this old U is actually decent for its age...
I'd like to find the correct reflector and prolly gonna go with 12V, and yes,, they measure 7 inches across the lens
This is actually 2 different tractors..one is what I'd call a 'standard' or wheatland, the other is a row crop...

i have 3 12 volt 1953 U wheatlands and they all have those 7" curved lights.