706/806 development ??

[DrAllis]

(quoted from post at 07:14:55 11/14/23) The 4010 was not out in 1959. ** Only way that it could have been late 1959, is if it was a prototype set up for some heavy duty/high hour testing. And if that was true (and it could have been) there's no way it had a "4010" decal on it. And quite possibly the sheet metal wasn't what we know as a 4010 either. They had to do testing for sure, but under the cloak of secrecy.

 

[the tractor vet]

Yea it was , sure got the neighbors talking . lots of lookers and they were at the big local fair . I was 13 at the time . Seams that a lot of firsts happened during that County Fair being it is larger then the Ohio State fair and for years a vary large ag display of all colors . . From Fair to Farm , people came from all over to that fair . at one time around here ya were no more then ten miles from a dealer of any color . Here where i live we had two dealers in town not A block apart , five miles east were two dealers just across the road from each other and two miles north of them was another dealer , Two miles from the center of town was another dealer to the west 7 miles was a dealer , 7 miles south was a dealer they were everywhere . yes Paul had his 4010 for harvest that year . That past spring was when the new 460 arrived at my uncles and the Fall before was when the 560 arrived just before harvest . I would help with tater harvest every year from the time i could reach the clutch pedal on the O C 3 and that would have been 1952 .

 

[Bermuda Ken]

IIRC....IH had these in development in 1959.

The 706-806 were NOT rushed...IH took its time to get it right with its first clean sheet tractor in over 2 decades....

 

[NY 986]

Nearly all of the testing was done in the Southwest due to its remoteness. I'm not saying it is completely impossible for a 4010
to have gone elsewhere for testing but it would be quite rare. A dealer and farmer would have to have a high degree of trust in
the eyes of JD. Going back to the Model A JD used remote locations for nearly all of its testing. Having previous series sheet
metal was a common practice to keep curiosity to a minimum so I would imagine that any 4010 did not go out in its final form for an
independent test.

 

[MeanGene1]

They had a plowing demonstration day in '63 somewhere around Cohocton about when gramps was selling out of dealership. For years he had a pair of M's and a TD6, and used an M and the TD6 for plowing. He sold one of the M's and was planning to trade in the other one and the TD6 on a new 504- until the plow day. It was on a big rolling hill where you couldn't see the tractors until they came over the rise. Here came the Allis bunch, Masseys and such, then the Deeres, IH last- a 504, 706D pulling 5, 806D pulling 6, and the killer, a 4100 pulling 7- it was a massacre lol. Gramps changed his mind and kept the 706D, and our tater farmer neighbor bought the 806D. When we got our second 706D it seemed obvious that the first one was turned up a bit, was always a little stronger. That 806D was a pure hoss, pulled the 6 as long as he had it,and was completely trouble free. We had a dairy guy we worked with on hay and oats who had a 3020 gasser that had great fun embarrasing. I had to run the 3020 one day pulling one of our 16 ft drags and thought I was being punished for something

 

[JD Dave]

IH had a strong dealer network in New Jersey in the 1940's through the 1970's. The potato guys liked Olivers. We always had IH when I was a kid. My uncle had worked at a local IH dealer in the the 1950's and came onboard as my dad's partner about 1958. We had a couple 454's and a 574. Then we brought in a 544 hydrostatic for the orchard sprayer. My uncle discovered a lot of problems with the hydrostatic trans and swapped out the 544 for a 1976 JD 2640. By the early 1980's, Roberson's, the IH dealer went out of business. 1976 marked the end of red tractors on our farm.

 

[EFV]

JD went down too many financial rabbit holes which I believe closed the door on more innovation for the 4010. JD wasted time
looking into V4 and V6 engines just to be different. The Dubuque tractors would have benefitted from less money wasted.

Doug Dann did presentation at last NYExpo about 10 series with a focus on 3010 and 4010. V configuration
was 60 degrees to eliminate balancer shaft. Everything had to fit under the hoods of these tractors for visibility
so an inline engine was final choice. 3010 almost had a small six cylinder engine. The only thing brainstorming
committee agreed on at first meeting was the tractor would be painted green and yellow. A reasonable thing
to do since the far more attractive red had already been taken.

 

[NY 986]

Doug Dann did presentation at last NYExpo about 10 series with a focus on 3010 and 4010. V configuration
was 60 degrees to eliminate balancer shaft. Everything had to fit under the hoods of these tractors for visibility
so an inline engine was final choice. 3010 almost had a small six cylinder engine. The only thing brainstorming
committee agreed on at first meeting was the tractor would be painted green and yellow. A reasonable thing
to do since the far more attractive red had already been taken.

I was there. I wish I had known you were there as I would have said hello.