706 weight?

[tractorsam]

Looking for a weight on a Farmall 706, D282, TA, fast hitch, wide front, no weights, 18.4x38 rear rubber, cast centers. Does anyone have one similar and know what it weighs? Thanks, Sam

 

[steve706]

7970 lbs

 

[tractorsam]

Thank you. I was figuring on it being much closer to 10 000lbs. Sam

 

[D beatty]

A 706 can weigh from 7,530 lbs. to a little over 10,000 lbs..

 

[the tractor vet]

You guys crack me up on tractor weight , You take SHIPPING WEIGHT as Gospel.shipping weights are DRY weights NO fluids no accessory , no fluid in tires no Weight bracket no weights . A DRESSED 706 could go over 14000 lbs , my First tractor was a 450 D narrow ft. and on the feed mill scales she weighed in over 9700 lbs. Went and picked up a 1066 for repair work one time and loaded it on my 18000 Lb. goose neck and about gave my 88 F 350 a hernia so on the way to the shop i ran it across the feed mill scales and grossed out over 37500. My 806 D wide ft. with fast hitch will trip the scales at a shade over 14000. My S/MTA with my donkey in the seat is just under 6500 with no weights . Then ya want to pull tractors with half ton trucks on bumper pull trailers. The heaviest signal tractor i ever hauled was a 1570 Case with 30.5x32's LOADED with full rack of ft weights. MY 460 did not like that one It made my 12 ply trailer tires look under inflated with 90 psi and flated out the drive axle springs on the truck. That was a long 19 mile ride .

 

[the tractor vet]

That is DRY weight a RUNNING 706 gasser with narrow ft. with non loaded 15.5x38s half wore out fast hitch one remote clam shell fenders no tool box just a bare ft weight bracket and around a half tank of gas and with the fast hitch drawbar with my 195 lbs in the seat will allow for one 75 lb weight on the deck for the 8500 lb class across the feed mill scales .

 

[ejr-IA]

8700

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

You're much closer to reality with your 10,000lb estimate, though you still might be a little light.

I think my Super M with wide front, fluid-filled tires and a set of rear weights is pretty close to 8000lbs. Tractordata says 5603lbs shipping weight. Add in 1440lbs for liquid ballast and 300lbs of iron, and you're at 7400lbs without counting the wide front, or fluids, or any of the other junk that was bolted on to it when I bought it. As you can see it adds up quick.

 

[The Dukester]

Well, tractorvet, I won't argue with you, in most cases I respect your advice and statements as accurate as anyone can be.....but, haven't you judged the weight of a 706 just a smidge high at 14,000 lbs......I realize it's possible, but 14,000 is pretty heavy. They tested them at Nebraska at a little over 10,000. I think you'ld have to add a lot of weights plus the soup in the tires to get up to 14,000. (Just sayin')

 

[wolfman]

My neighbor has a 706 equipped exactly as yours and it weights a little over 10,000. I don't know if the rear 18.4-38s have liquid or not. It does have two suitcase wts on the front and the bracket.

 

[the tractor vet]

Take a 706 with wi9de ft. oversized tires on the ft.full rake of 100's yea i know suppose to be 75 then throw a set of 20.4x34' fill them with the max load of Cal then add in five sets of donuts and then top that off with a year round cab . when i got my 806 off and auctioneer buddy she was a narrow ft. fast hitch with flat tops and empty ft. weight bracket a loaded set of 18.4x34's and three sets of donuts on bias tires .she tipped the scales over 13000 , I removed the donuts and had to add a 75 pounder on the deck to make 12500 . Now it had a wide ft. and new radials last spring and we are bumping a shade over 14000 . when i hauled the 806 home i had to take the 706 that was setting with it and it was a narrow ft. also with 18.4x34's loaded with two sets of donuts . I loaded them on the vary back end of a 53 foot step deck as we had a full load of other junk up ft. like four five bottom plows and over top of them were four trans port disc. and other junk stuffed where ever we could stuff stuff. But those two tractors setting back over the spread made interesting ride home for a due to there weight . I have hauled a lot of tractors and equipment in my lifetime with small trucks and big trucks and i NEVER go by shipping weight because like i said it is a DRY weight . Then you add in coolant , Hyd . oil engine oil ,and fuel . Then you throw in bigger tires add in a wide ft fast hitch weighs more then a three point throw in flat top fenders over the clamshells add for a ft. weight bracket add for the T/A (as yep a T/A is not std equipped ) Add PTO here again it is NOT std Equip. . same as the fast hitch or the three point . Yes just about all of them have the hitch of some kind and yep most all have PTO's and extra remote adds weight . Ya want to know how heavy it is then run it across the scales . Might scare ya . Never never ask a Shipper or someone in a Steel mill how heavy it is , They LIE . i asked that question back in 1981 in a steel mill as i was there as the TEST LOAD trucker . I was to loaad broken Carbon electrodes out of U S Steel in Chicago , we set four pieces in on the floor of my 30 foot dump trailer that were 28-29 feet long and then they brought in a Cat 992 and he dug into the pile and got a FULL bucket and as he tried to lift it he lifted the back of the machine off the ground , so he shook some off and he came over and we put half in the nose and the rest in the back , yep i am good . When i went to move i put the fire out in first gear then went to low and put the fire out i had to slip the clutch in low to get it moving . wet to the scales at the store room and the sign in the window of the scales said NO MORE THEN 50000 on this scale when i pulled the steering axle on i had 24000 and change on the steering and when i pulled the drives on the scale collapsed they had to bring planking out to ramp me up and out it was only a 4-6 inch drop but i broke the scales . i had to go weigh on the railroad scales . I had 379900 gross that was a bit much and i had to go back and take some off . Five hours later of taking one chunk at a time off with a 15 ton grove crane i went for a reweigh and for all my effort i took off 101100 lbs i now had 278800 gross and yes i took it and ran with it biggest load my 4300 ever hauled . I asked those guys and this is what i got Oh it's not heavy . I have loaded many loads of coal off a Cat 992 with the same spade nose bucket and i could fit two buckets heeped on nicely . One bucket off a 992 with manginess would give you a nice load but one bucket of broken carbon electrodes a bit tomuch. Always go with the heaviest it could be never the lightest it could be because it is NEVER the lightest .

 

[The Dukester]

Whew....Okay....I guess.......Funny though, Nebraska tested them at a little over 10,000......and they usually try to adequately weight the tractors to get honest pulling readings.

 

[Mark (EC,IN)]

I'm not saying you couldn't get a 706 to 14K, but I'm pretty sure it would be a lead sled that couldn't get out of its own way. I don't think many run them that heavy in the field.

I've weighed 3 of my tractors on the CO-OP scales.

Deere 4430 weighs 13640 (18.4x42 no fluid full fuel tank 4 rear and 10 front weights)

IH 1086 weighs 16400 ( 18.4x38's full of fluid 4 rear and no front weights fuel full)

IH 1206 weighs 12100 (23.1x34 no fluid, 8 rear weights and 4 front fuel full)

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Maybe it's highly unlikely that it would be 14,000, but the worst thing you can do is underestimate the weight of a tractor you're going to haul, or have hauled. In my experience, EVERYTHING weighs more than you think it does.

Of course the OP has given us no information about the tractor except that it is a 706.

 

[the tractor vet]

True , BUT the factory also set the Hp. when new , BUT how many have been turned up over the years . Myself i have never heard anybody ever tell me that had tomuch power . Neb. tested tractor as they came from the factory Not as they came off the farms . a 706 From the factory came with either a 15.5x38 or a 16.9x34 tire on the back . How many 15.5's have been swapped out for and 18.4x38 , how many 16.9's have been swapped out to 18.4x34's or even 20.8 34's NOT factory are they now how much more weight can you add to the bigger tires when they are loaded . I have two close friends that have the 20.8x34's on there tractors loaded with cal . One is and 806 like mine and the other is a 756 , both have two sets of donuts and a full rack of 100 lbers on the nose so what do they weigh?? Also the one friend has a 966 with the same tires and they are loaded and full rack on the ft with a year round cab and i can tell you for a fact that across the scales she is 16200 No quite Neb test weight is it . I was helping him with corn harvest and i was pulling two wagons to town for him and yea i had the weight of the first wagon on the draw bar so let call that say 45-65 lbs extra on the tractor and my 195 in the seat , she is still a heavy hog for a 966 . My S/MTA is a lot heavier then shipping weight even though i removed the belt pulley assembly because i do not have the 13.6 x38's it came with as now it has 16.9x38's on widened rims and have vary little wiggle room to get in the 6500 lb class with less then a half tank of gas. This is why you can not go by shipping weight.

 

[the tractor vet]

OK so now add in some juice in the tires and tally that in . and see how fast that adds up add in radials over cord tires wider rims , throw a cab on a non cab tractor I know what my one friends early 706 gasser with narrow ft one remote dual PTO fast hitch ft weight bracket and clam shell fenders weigh and with me in the seat we can just squeak into the 8500 lb class with it when it had the 15.5x38s on it Now that it has 18.4 x38's with no juice in the tires it's hard to get it in the 9000 lb class oh i forgot fast hitch . So if ya filled them with the max mix of Cal now where are you .

 

[Mark (EC,IN)]

I realize that a 706 could weigh 14K, the 1206 in the picture weighs around 50K.

That said I'll bet 90% of the 706's, in the field, are closer to 10K than 14K

 

[the tractor vet]

Just with the cal at max mix with the tire sizes you find today on 706's as i just looked up the weights since i am not and expert on filling tires here as i do not do wind whistles water leaks and tires , a stock 706 gasser like my one firends If it had just 18.4x34's no radial your looking at almost 1100 Lbs PER tire then add in tire weight and rim and you almost a ton so you estimate is light and that would put that 706 at over 12000 , like i said my 806 D is over 14000 . And i was just thinking here a couple years ago i had to get into the rearned of our 1066 and had to remove the new 18.4x38 radials LOADED and for the New Holland LX665 that can handle 1750 Lbs we had to remove the bucket off the skidsteer to handle just one tire and had to use extreme caution while doing so because that one tire was way more then that skidsteer was made to handle , alot more . My partner in crime and i had this talk about the 706 gasser he has and is dry but radials and wide ft. and it goes 97 and change . They are way heavier then you think.

 

[Mark (EC,IN)]

Like I said, you can make one weigh whatever you want.

My question is.....WHY....would you want a 75-80 horse tractor to weigh 14K.

I agree that 806's weighed 14K years ago when they were the big horse on the farm. Ten on the front, a couple 150's in each rear wheel and 18X38's full of fluid, but I don't see why anyone would want a 706 that heavy.

Guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.

 

[the tractor vet]

No i am just saying here , Where i am we have HILLS and when working in the HILLS ya don't want the tail wagging the dog. One year i took one of my 706's that i had just got ready for resale and to make sure it was good to go i used it to plant corn with . A 706 gasser narrow ft good back tires but no weight or fluid and hooked it to my 1240 Deere Plateless planter with dry fert. worked great for me then i went down to help a buddy ge done and i had that planter shove me down a hill and almost thru a fence and over a 150 highwall of a strip cut i could not whoa that sucker on the headland strip on the grass . we also use them old tractors as they were ment to be used over here as this is what MOSt folks farm with . we still fill silos with hay and corn and silage wagons just keep getting bigger So we run fluid and even fluid and donuts together . Ya have never lived till ya spin out pulling a hill with a load behind you and start to slide back down the hill , Not fun at all . All i was trying to get across is never go to pick up a tractor to haul by going with shipping weight as i said it is a bone dry shipping weight . same as going to haul a dozer by shipping weight the dispatcher/broker tells ya and whenyou get there with permit in hand for x amount of tonnage and you find that OH this one is a wide track with a wider blade and oh it had four more tons added to it because it has a winch and oh there is a full forestry package on it So that 42800 lb dozer now weight just a shade south of 30 ton and you brought the wrong trailer and don't have permits for 15 feet wide . Weight is your friend when you farm in hill country on flat land yea you can get away with out weight . Just like that 1570 Case a guy asked me to haul yep they are heavy with standard tires loaded but what about 30.5x32's loaded to the 5 pound to a gallon mix plus it was dead to boot . Two 4020's and a 510 Deere hoe to get that ingot up and on the trailer Had i knowen i would of not done that one as that one should have gone on a Semi not a one ton ford 4x4 and a 18000 tandem dual trailer.So no you do not have to agree with me as I am just pointing out What they can weigh not what the book says they weigh.