7710 front end loader

[brokentractor1]

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Thread '7710'

Friday at 8:35 PM

Need help on 7710 II loader install. Seen berns post from years go, mine has the 2 hydraulic pumps. I just couldn't tell from photos which lines on the tractor are what.

• brokentractor1
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• Forum: Tractor & Farm Talk

Posted in wrong area..... newbie.


So if I am seeing it right
Where i am pointing is the supply line I tee into correct?

 

[brokentractor1]

 

[a49deere]

Looks like you have the deluxe remote valve! It would help if you got a "Farther away picture"! And what are you trying to do? Do you have 4 ports? On mine the loader lines hook into one set (top and bottom) and also there is a return line that goes into the top of rearend thru the threaded plug!

 

[brokentractor1]

Im trying to put a loader on from my reading on here some say plug it in to remotes and run a open center loader valve others say on here that only uses one hydraulic pump. Im trying to do the way Bern speaks of where you tap the pressure line with a tee and use a shuttle tee or check tee for load sensing, ill return it likely how you stated yours is. I've read to the point I'm over my head. It's a 7412 ford loader I'm putting on it.

 

[brokentractor1]

Looks like you have the deluxe remote valve! It would help if you got a "Farther away picture"! And what are you trying to do? Do you have 4 ports? On mine the loader lines hook into one set (top and bottom) and also there is a return line that goes into the top of rearend thru the threaded plug!

I re read how yours is installed if your using one set of rear remotes a top and bottom wouldn't that be pressure and return? Why do you have a secondary return unless I'm missing something on your install.

 

[Bern]

I re read how yours is installed if your using one set of rear remotes a top and bottom wouldn't that be pressure and return? Why do you have a secondary return unless I'm missing something on your install.

If you wish to tap pressure for your loader valve at the point you indicated in your first post, the loader valve MUST BE closed center load sensing (CCLS). If you have a conventional open center valve, it will not work, you should simply use one set of couplers for your in and out.

If the loader valve is CCLS, this link will have a pic that lays out the tractor end of it pretty nicely: https://www.mycnhstore.com/us/en/ne...E111-9FCE-005056875BD6?modelSerialSearch=true

Reply back if you have further questions.

 

[brokentractor1]

If you wish to tap pressure for your loader valve at the point you indicated in your first post, the loader valve MUST BE closed center load sensing (CCLS). If you have a conventional open center valve, it will not work, you should simply use one set of couplers for your in and out.

If the loader valve is CCLS, this link will have a pic that lays out the tractor end of it pretty nicely: https://www.mycnhstore.com/us/en/ne...E111-9FCE-005056875BD6?modelSerialSearch=true

Reply back if you have further questions.

I have not bought the valve for the loader yet, I'm just trying to install it to where the loader works the best way and from your old post it is with a ccls valve. I figured out which was pressure im assuming the one I posted a picture of, do you have a picture of where load sense should be tapped in i cant really tell on diagram

 

[brokentractor1]

Im looking at this kit, https://www.shortlineparts.com/products/jk-cab-tractors?variant=48819373867248

It's the only one I could find that is load sensing couldn't find one on surplus center, will this work?

 

[JJL]

I installed a similar CCLS joystick on my 5610. Just make sure you get the load sensing valve, and not just the closed center valve. That rear port is the pressure side, and that is were I added a T fitting. As you said, you need a Shuttle T for the load sensing line so you can tie into the loader valve. I ran my return to the bottom side of the fill tube at the back of the rear end. I can get some pics if you want.

 

[brokentractor1]

I installed a similar CCLS joystick on my 5610. Just make sure you get the load sensing valve, and not just the closed center valve. That rear port is the pressure side, and that is were I added a T fitting. As you said, you need a Shuttle T for the load sensing line so you can tie into the loader valve. I ran my return to the bottom side of the fill tube at the back of the rear end. I can get some pics if you want.

Id love some pictures of all the tie in connections

 

[Bern]

I have not bought the valve for the loader yet, I'm just trying to install it to where the loader works the best way and from your old post it is with a ccls valve. I figured out which was pressure im assuming the one I posted a picture of, do you have a picture of where load sense should be tapped in i cant really tell on diagram

I've made it about as clear as I can with this modified pic of the tractor end. The 3 red circles show the 3 hoses that will go to your loader valve: 1) supply in, 2) return out, and 3) load sense. The first two hoses will be 1/2 or 3/4" diameter, and the load sense line will be 1/4', as it is a signal only circuit.

I don't think that the valve you linked is load sensing, because towards the bottom it notes that this valve works with 2350-2755 JD tractors, which are closed center machines only, not load sense. You may need to call a local hydraulic store and have them help you find what you need.