8N CLUTCH

[MR_BIG]

Hi
I purchased an 8N and it does not, when the clutch pedal is fully depressed, shift into gear because the gears are still turning. The clutch adjustment is adjusted to he maximum it can go. Before I break the tractor in half to check the clutch, does anybody have any ideas about why this is happening? Should I take the steering box off and try to check out what"s happening that way?
Regards Randy

 

[Bob]

Your clutch is stuck. Enter "clutch stuck" in the search box on this page and you'll get to see what about 27,910 "N" owners before you have done to remedy this!

 

[NOXJohn]

AS Bob indicated your clutch disc is most likely stuck to the flywheel. Block or tie the clutch pedal down and pull the starter. Spray the clutch flywheel mating area with parts cleaner. Use the straw to direct the spray. Use a big screw driver to turn flywheel to get full coverage. Let it set for a day or two with the clutch pedal held down. Spray again as you have the time. It may break loose. Once loose ride the clutch some while driving to burn off any crud on contact surface. Block clutch pedal down any time tractor is going to set over night or longer. There are other ways but I would try this one first.

 

[MR_BIG]

Thank You - I will try that today.

 

[old]

Very common problem on any tractor. Many ways to free them up/ Blocking the pedal down sometimes works as does having it out in the open and driving it around by starting it in gear. Holding the pedal down till it frees up. But to do that you need some place where you can do that safely. Or pull the starter off and block the pedal down and spray the clutch area with brake cleaner spray

 

[MR_BIG]

I cannot understand why the clutch would remain stuck to the flywheel. The clutch is not a smooth surface, like two wet pieces of glass sticking together. Why is it it gets stuck? Anyhow, I took the starter off and sprayed the clutch with brake parts cleaner, and maybe tomorrow it will come unstuck.

 

[old]

Flywheel and pressure plate are both steel and rust. Clutch disk is semi metallic so it in turn does rust some and when that happens things stick or maybe I should say rust tight and that is why you have the problem you have now. Also make sure the little cotter pin in the bottom of the bell housing is free and clean so water and oil can drain out like it should

 

[36 Coupe]

RUST.The cluth disc gets full of metal particles that rust tight to the flywheel or pressure plate surface.I have a Ford clutch disc that had the lining ripped off the disc when it rusted tight to the pressure plate.

 

[MR_BIG]

OK - I have determined that the clutch is not stuck.
I removed the running board and I can depress the clutch down past where the running board would be, and get it into gear and drive it. Even with adjusting the clutch link as far as it can go, it still needs the running board to be removed to get it into gear. What does this mean - any ideas?

Regards
Randy

 

[Bob]

The throwout bearing MAY be worn out or there may simply be "lost motion" in the linkage, for instance, from a worn pin connecting the fork to the shaft or the lever to the shaft. (15 or 17)

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[old]

As Bob says. I have seen more then one that did some odd things over the years. My 841 we had to bend the rod a tad after a new clutch was put in to get it to work like it should and a dealer installed it and said it would wear in but didn't work well so we bent the rod a tad.

 

[old]

As Bob says. I have seen more then one that did some odd things over the years. My 841 we had to bend the rod a tad after a new clutch was put in to get it to work like it should and a dealer installed it and said it would wear in but didn't work well so we bent the rod a tad. One other thing is look at all the linkage you might have a cracked piece and that can be enough to cause you that problem

 

[MR_BIG]

Thanks - I think you are right. I know there is play in the clutch pedal around the shaft, but I did not think that alone could be the problem.

 

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 04:42:43 11/13/10) Hi
I purchased an 8N and it does not, when the clutch pedal is fully depressed, shift into gear because the gears are still turning. The clutch adjustment is adjusted to he maximum it can go. Before I break the tractor in half to check the clutch, does anybody have any ideas about why this is happening? Should I take the steering box off and try to check out what"s happening that way?
Regards Randy

The arm (8N7511B), part of the linkage not the one you put yer foot on can also crack and open up when you press the clutch petal then close up when you let up on the clutch,,, you almost need someone to press the clutch to see it,,, don't go bending the clutch petal... unless you are that stupid :roll: fix whats worn are broke...

 

[MR_BIG]

Hi

From what I can see, the left brake shaft and the the shaft with the clutch fork rotates directly against the cast iron tractor housing. The only bushing that I have found is inside the clutch pedal. My IT shop manual seems to support what I have found. I am trying to get rid of looseness in my clutch, and was wondering if there should be more bushings than I have managed to find.

Regards
Randy

 

[DollarBill]

[color=darkblue:d051b08069][b:d051b08069]I am trying to get rid of looseness in my clutch, and was wondering if there should be more bushings than I have managed to find. [/b:d051b08069][/color:d051b08069]

That's it other than the two bushings in the case that the clutch shaft rides on.

 

[Hobo,NC]

(quoted from post at 03:31:08 11/28/10) Hi

From what I can see, the left brake shaft and the the shaft with the clutch fork rotates directly against the cast iron tractor housing. The only bushing that I have found is inside the clutch pedal. My IT shop manual seems to support what I have found. I am trying to get rid of looseness in my clutch, and was wondering if there should be more bushings than I have managed to find.

Regards
Randy

The release fork is pined to the clutch shaft,,, its rare to see'em sheer are what ever they do... mite B time to R&amp;R that box for a peak if all the connections and mechanical gismos are in good condition... Your call you the one doing the exams

 

[Dunk]

A leaking front tranny seal, over time can swell an otherwise good clutch plate, to the point that the pressure plate can't open enough to let go of it, I have one that did that on me.

Most of the time they are just rust stuck though.