8n stalling

8n stalling after running for a while,,front mt dist,,after sitting a while ,it will start but runs for 15-20sec and dies out.i have to choke it to get it to crank.new gas ,changed plugs and it ran smooth before sitting for about a month or so....help
 
check for fuel flow thur the carb. remove plug on bottom of bowl and check for a good strong flow, a pint in 2-3 minutes. filters could be plugged
 
Sometimes after sitting a while a tractor,or car for that matter,will be sluggish about starting.What I do is turnit over,key offchoke on about 1 rev.then turn key on&crank with 1/4 or less throttle&1/2 choke it will almost always start like that.After starting hold +or-1/2choke,whatever it takes to run until warm.Of course the suggestions of the other posters should be followed after failed starts, because the plugs are wet etc.hope that helps.Not an expert by any means,just experienced.---lha
 
The other guys gave you the "Cliff Notes" version of troubleshooting your problem; this is the "War & Peace" version! :)

It is important for you to tell us if your tractor has a 6 volt or 12 volt electrical system. The troubleshooting is different based upon the configuration of your engine.

There are three very important tools you always need to have in your N tool box: a 3 inch piece of wire w/ alligator clips on each end, an old spark plug w/ the gap opened to at least 3/16” ( ¼” is better) and a 7/16 box end wrench. And, you really do need a working ammeter. With these tools, you can quickly narrow down most N problems to spark or fuel.

Next time it stops, check quickly for fuel then spark. When I say quickly, I mean get off the seat, grab the tools & do it right then. Do not wait a minute or two. First, check for fuel. Remove the bolt in the bottom of the carb; as long as the fuel is turned on, you should see gas flowing out of the carb. If it’s a dribble, or runs for 5 seconds & stops, or none at all, you have solved half the problem: it’s fuel related. If gas flows well out of the carb & only stops when you turn it off at the sediment bowl, chances are very good it’s not a fuel problem. So, next, crank the engine & look at the ammeter. What is the ammeter doing? Does it show a constant discharge, no movement at all, or does it dip? Next, get the old plug, ground it to a rust & paint free spot on the engine, turn the key on & crank the engine. If the spark jumps the 3/16” gap, you probably don’t have a spark problem. If it won’t jump the 3/16” gap, you have a spark problem. If the ammeter shows a constant discharge, or doesn’t move at all, that also tells you that you have a spark problem. Jump the ignition switch w/ your jumper wire & see what happens. If it runs, you found the problem. If it doesn’t have spark after you jump the ignition switch, post back for more info on further troubleshooting.

If it does not have gas coming out of the carb at a steady stream w/ the bolt out, you have a fuel problem. First, remove the gas cap. Your vent could be clogged & it vacuum locked. If that doesn’t work, tap the carb bowl w/ a hammer handle in case the float is sticking closed. (don’t whack it w/ the head of the hammer; you can crack the bowl). If you still don’t see gas flowing, the N has three fuel screens; one in the brass elbow, one in the top of the sediment bowl & one on the stem of the sediment bowl in the gas tank. Check the screen in the elbow & the screen in the top of the sediment bowl. (don’t worry about the one in the tank) Both probably need to be cleaned. If you have the fuel knob turned on all the way, & 1 gallon or less in the tank, it may be trying to feed off of the reserve inlet which is probably clogged. Only open it 2 full turns. Put at least 2 gallons in the tank.

There are ways to check for spark & fuel that work & ways that don't. For example, having gas to the carb is nice, but having it past the float is what counts! That’s why removing the bolt in the bottom of the carb is the way to do it. And, same thing w/ spark at the plugs. Some folks think that checking for spark means pulling a plug wire off & looking for one. Well, it's the distance the spark jumps at the plug that gives you the info you want. It takes about 17kv to jump a 3/16" gap & 22kv to jump ¼” in the open air, so that's why you need to use a spark plug. Or, a store bought plug checker. Remember, it’s 14psi outside of the engine & about 90psi at a 6:1 compression ratio in the cylinders & compressed air creates electrical resistance, so you really need the 17-22kv to fire the plugs when the engine is running. There are other good ways to check for fuel & spark, but these ways work for me.
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Bruce, you said not to worrry about the filter in the tank. I had a problem with my 8N dying. FOund it was the stand pipe for the main fuel was plugged. Got very litle fuel thru the carb. Had to replace the sediment bowl assy.
 
Yep, they do that, but it's more common for the other two to need attention & much easier to check. If you have no flow after cleaning the first two, then it's time to pull the sediment bowl.
 
Bruce VA
Where do you get ampmeter. I watch 3o amp meter on discharge, before regulator cuts out, but reading 3 to possibly to 10 amps (without ruining meter) would be more desirable. I'm always afraid of using VOM because of ruing it.
Chalie in MI
 
I'm referring to the ammeter on the dash board. It's not the reading that's important; it's the fact that the needle moves or doesn't.
 

Michael, my money is on clogged up fuel system. As others have said, check for a good fuel flow out of the carb. Check the two 'easy' filter screens. But cleaning and replacing them might not take care of the problem for very long. It's likely that you have a bunch of dirt and rust fines in your gas tank. First of all, you shouldn't ever open the fuel valve more than two full turns. If you open it all the way you are sucking gas out of the 'reserve' which is the bottom of the tank where all the nasty stuff is.
If it IS a dirty fuel/tank problem I suggest you remove the tank and have it boiled out/steam cleaned at your local radiator shop. Then clean or replace your three filter screens. My shut off valve was gunked up, too so I replaced that also. It came with the filter screen that inserts into the gas tank.
If the tank is in really bad shape you could consider replacing the gas tank. That would pretty much take care of the problem for another 50 to 60 years.
One way to avoid the inside of the tank rusting is to keep it topped off with gas. A full tank has very little air in it that can cool and condense. The condensation causes the inside of the tank to rust.

Cheers!
 
It is a minor detail regarding checking the fuel elbow screen - be sure to get a spare fuel line nut into the fuel line connection of the elbow after detaching the fuel line - so you don't deform the thin section that the fuel line nut threads into if it is tight into the carb and you have to really reef on it. Gotta admit, I "have a friend" who it once, and it sets you back a bit...
 
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