A question about gravely implements

[danc1948]

Hello all,not sure if I’m in the right forum or not but I’ll give it a try . I have a gravely 5665 professional walk behind Kohler engine gravely. runs great no problem there. I mostly use it for the the Rototiller and the bearings that support the tines are shot and I have no idea what model the pictured Rototiller is and I’m wondering if anybody can help me with that and also the pictured mower deck. it needs another roller in the front to keep it from digging in when going backwards. any help is appreciated thanks. Danc

 

[TomIn]

I've got a mower deck that looks like yours. If you do a search on Gravely manuals, you can some that look like our decks.

https://chipmanuals.gtcoa.com/pdf/30_Inch_Rotary_Mower_Op_Man_0786.pdf

The manual shows that the front "roller gage" is Gravely part number 015351. After Ariens purchased gravely, they changed the part number to 07520100

When you search the new part number, you will find several ads that show the dimensions of the roller.

 

[TomIn]

Hello all,not sure if I’m in the right forum or not but I’ll give it a try . I have a gravely 5665 professional walk behind Kohler engine gravely. runs great no problem there. I mostly use it for the the Rototiller and the bearings that support the tines are shot and I have no idea what model the pictured Rototiller is and I’m wondering if anybody can help me with that and also the pictured mower deck. it needs another roller in the front to keep it from digging in when going backwards. any help is appreciated thanks. Danc

I've never used a "tiller" like yours, so am just searching the internet. I believe that Gravely called them cultivators (rather then tillers) because the short tines were better suited to cultivating weeds rather than breaking ground. You can find some manuals suck as:

https://chipmanuals.gtcoa.com/pdf/Rotary_Cult_NewStyle_Op_Man_1178.pdf It shows the bearings as Gravely part 22193 which is an obsolete part number. Doing a search on Gravely 26" rotary cultivator brings you to a more recent parts diagram.

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The bearing number was superseded by 05422700 and the bearing housing part 22192 was superseded by 085520000. The bearing is no longer available, but the bearing housing can still be purchased for about $143 each.

A search of the new bearing number shows a few ads with the "dimensions" of the bearing.

The best I can suggest is to take your old bearings and bearing housing to a good bearing house and see if they can match them. You might also call an old time Gravely dealer such as Richards Lawn and Garden Equipment in Spencer WV. They used to be great on older Gravely equipment (but it's been over 20 years since I called them.)

 

[560Dennis]

I use to be part of the gravely club o America, many good people , try this link

GTCOA.com – Gravely Tractor Club of America

www.gtcoa.com

 

[danc1948]

Thank you guys for your information good and bad It’s enough to make my eyes water with part superseded, part superseded, etc.. you are likely right that It is/ was called a cultivator instead of a tiller. It does not dig particularly deep, but it always left me a nice raised bed to plant if only going forward. I sometimes disc 1st and use the Rototiller to straighten everything out. It works fairly well always done a really nice job for me so I will have to pursue the numbers you graciously provided me with, thank you very much again.

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

Take the numbers off the old bearings and go to any bearing shop or search the number online. Even try NAPA or other parts stores. A-Z, Advance and O'R will usually show Timken or National but you get Chinese products. I've been using EZ Bearing in Pa. Good prices.

 

[DoubleO7]

it needs another roller in the front to keep it from digging in

Use the dimensions Tomin found for the roller and buy one of that size from Amazon.
You will save BIG $$ vs a genuine Gravely roller.
Get the biggest one that will fit. If too long, many can be sawed off to fit.

 

[Janicholson]

Thank you guys for your information good and bad It’s enough to make my eyes water with part superseded, part superseded, etc.. you are likely right that It is/ was called a cultivator instead of a tiller. It does not dig particularly deep, but it always left me a nice raised bed to plant if only going forward. I sometimes disc 1st and use the Rototiller to straighten everything out. It works fairly well always done a really nice job for me so I will have to pursue the numbers you graciously provided me with, thank you very much again.

The chain drive gear (Top one) is very worn. Running it will cause rapid wear on the new chain (it needs)

 

[TomIn]

I've never used a "tiller" like yours, so am just searching the internet. I believe that Gravely called them cultivators (rather then tillers) because the short tines were better suited to cultivating weeds rather than breaking ground. You can find some manuals suck as:

https://chipmanuals.gtcoa.com/pdf/Rotary_Cult_NewStyle_Op_Man_1178.pdf It shows the bearings as Gravely part 22193 which is an obsolete part number. Doing a search on Gravely 26" rotary cultivator brings you to a more recent parts diagram.

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

We are committed to providing you with the largest selection of OEM parts from the best brands, the best diagrams and part search tools anywhere.

www.partstree.com

The bearing number was superseded by 05422700 and the bearing housing part 22192 was superseded by 085520000. The bearing is no longer available, but the bearing housing can still be purchased for about $143 each.

A search of the new bearing number shows a few ads with the "dimensions" of the bearing.

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The best I can suggest is to take your old bearings and bearing housing to a good bearing house and see if they can match them. You might also call an old time Gravely dealer such as Richards Lawn and Garden Equipment in Spencer WV. They used to be great on older Gravely equipment (but it's been over 20 years since I called them.)

I tried another search engine and found part number 05422700 listed. (I have no idea whether the company actually has any in stock.

https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/part/gravely/05422700

At the price of $132.31 EACH, I hope you really want them.

Take the numbers off the old bearings and go to any bearing shop or search the number online. Even try NAPA or other parts stores. A-Z, Advance and O'R will usually show Timken or National but you get Chinese products. I've been using EZ Bearing in Pa. Good prices.

Good advice, but having a hex bearing that fits a hex shaft rather limits one's choices. The good thing is that Gravely was a relatively small company and seemed to use the most common (and cheapest) bearings.

 

[TomIn]

Thank you guys for your information good and bad It’s enough to make my eyes water with part superseded, part superseded, etc.. you are likely right that It is/ was called a cultivator instead of a tiller. It does not dig particularly deep, but it always left me a nice raised bed to plant if only going forward. I sometimes disc 1st and use the Rototiller to straighten everything out. It works fairly well always done a really nice job for me so I will have to pursue the numbers you graciously provided me with, thank you very much again.

Yours is the "new" style cultivator. An operator's manual for the old style is linked below.

https://chipmanuals.gtcoa.com/pdf/Rotary_Cult_OldStyle_Op_Man.pdf

The old style should also work with your tractor (based on my memory). With the current high prices and/or lack of availability of parts, you might be better off looking for another used cultivator rather than spending a medium fortune on yours. What is your general location?

Is the 1948 your "model: year? I'm a 1947 "model" and have used a riding sulky behind my two wheel tractors for years.

 

[danc1948]

Wow, thank you very much. Appreciate the help…, have thought myself the top gear clog looked worn so thanks for the tip there. I do have a new chain that I bought years ago, but never put on as I don’t use the machine very much. yes indeed I am a 1948 model located central Gulf Coast, Florida. and occasionally do use the sulky with the mower deck. I know remarkably little abou the various implements that can be used with gravely. I also have a strange looking implement. shaped like a cylinder, but with sharp times on it I think designed to be used with the wheels on either side. when I google rototillers for gravely, a remarkable array is shown I’m not sure how many of them may fit my machine. I need to do some research there.. will start the old-fashioned way takeoff the old and start looking for new.! appreciate the roller tip thanks everybody danc

 

[MKinON]

Wow, thank you very much. Appreciate the help…, have thought myself the top gear clog looked worn so thanks for the tip there. I do have a new chain that I bought years ago, but never put on as I don’t use the machine very much. yes indeed I am a 1948 model located central Gulf Coast, Florida. and occasionally do use the sulky with the mower deck. I know remarkably little abou the various implements that can be used with gravely. I also have a strange looking implement. shaped like a cylinder, but with sharp times on it I think designed to be used with the wheels on either side. when I google rototillers for gravely, a remarkable array is shown I’m not sure how many of them may fit my machine. I need to do some research there.. will start the old-fashioned way takeoff the old and start looking for new.! appreciate the roller tip thanks everybody danc

You have a very good, knowledgeable supplier of older Gravely parts close to you in Quincy Florida. Search GT Gravelyparts.com and give him a call.

 

[TomIn]

You have a very good, knowledgeable supplier of older Gravely parts close to you in Quincy Florida. Search GT Gravelyparts.com and give him a call.

If you are interested in various attachments for Gravely, look at the website linked below. It has a variety of manuals for many things.

https://chipmanuals.gtcoa.com/docs/index.htm

As best I can remember, your 5665 was made from the late 1970's through the mid 1980's. Earlier 12hp models would have been the 500 (rather than the 5000) series, and the later model would have been the Professional 12. For a user, one of the major changes was that earlier models used bolt on attachments while while later ones used a "quick hitch" that didn't require bolts. Adapters were sold so a person could use older attachments on newer tractors and vice versa.

I believe that the Gravely company (before it was bought by Ariens) only had two rotary cultivators for two-wheel tractors and a rear mount tiller for 4-wheel tractors. Both of the two-wheel tractor cultivators used the same "gear box" attached to the tractor. This was the same gear box used for the rotary plow. I would imagine that Gravely stayed with the hex shaft when the "new" rotary cultivator was introduced. The "weldment drive sprocket" shaft part 09519700 is no longer available. Neither is the "weldment tine shaft" part 08520100. However, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to find some matching sized sprockets to weld on the ends of your existing shafts (after the current worn sprockets are cut off.) It's all a matter of money. As a 1947 model, I have a hard time justifying spending big $$ for a project that I am unlikely to be able to use for more than a few years (at best.)

 

[danc1948]

Thank you model 1947 for terrific info! and thoughtful analysis. Number one priority for me is the bearings. if I get those then everything else will fall in line. money and years do matter, of course. but hopefully have a few gardens left. I use the cultivator maybe three or four times a year in a 30 x 50 plot that I use for garden. so it doesn’t get undo use. I think I’ve had this gravy for roughly 25 years and always thought it was a heckuva machine so I would like to have it operational again. I can use a tractor and disc if need be , it’s an option...I occasionally use the sulky for mowing, but I am very, very careful with it because I have been close to being pinned in the crotch area with those long handles on tight turns… will get to things as I can. We all have different criteria for how we spend our time. I am still on hurricane cleanup here as I still have a lot of down trees thanks to hurricane Milton …starting small first,taking the roller off the mower deck today. thanks a lot. I really do appreciate it. and enjoy the conversation!
Danc