Battery connection

[Buckeyemac]

I am the proud new owner of a Golden Jubilee. I drove it home from the sale yesterday. Battery was about dead when I went to start it today. I disconnected the battery. Am now confused as to what cable goes to the negative or positive terminal. I always thought that the ground wire from the frame went to the negative terminal. This one does not appear to. Thanking in advance for filling me in. :?:

 

[Dell (WA)]

Mac.........you'll find yer Jubie to be 6-volt POSITIVE (+) ground. Unlike yer BelchFire-V8. ........HTH, the grounded Dell

 

[Bruce (VA)]

The polarity is usually (but not always) determined by the charging system on these old tractors.

Is it 6v or 12v?

If it's 12v w/ an alternator, 99% of the time it's negative ground.

If it's 6v w/ a generator, 99% of the time, it will be positive ground.

See tip # 50 to check the battery.

Post back & tell us if it's 6v or 12v, generator or alternator.
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[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 15:16:03 10/31/16) I am the proud new owner of a Golden Jubilee. I drove it home from the sale yesterday. Battery was about dead when I went to start it today. I disconnected the battery. Am now confused as to what cable goes to the negative or positive terminal. I always thought that the ground wire from the frame went to the negative terminal. This one does not appear to. Thanking in advance for filling me in. :?:

Unless you took the battery out the position of the cables relative to the post should be a very good clue. The tractor was originally 6V positive ground bey MANY have been switched to negative ground and/or 12V. The original generator system will run just fine either way.but I would suggest you determine which way it came to you before reconnecting the battery if you want it to charge. If it has been converted to an alternator they care very much and you don't want to let the smoke out of anything expensive ;-)

TOH

 

[Pappy]

Look at your battery cables. One is too small to fit on one terminal. One
is too large for the other terminal. Use the cable that fits.

 

[Buckeyemac]

Thanks. Appreciate the quick response.

 

[Buckeyemac]

Thanks. Appreciate the quick response.

 

[Buckeyemac]

I sure appreciate the enthusiasm on this forum. I am going to need a lot of advice. Last time I tinkered with an engine was in the '60's, and was not raised around machinery. I am looking forward to the challenge. Could not start it this morning. Could not even get a sputter. Never saw how they started the motor. The heir at the sale said they were having trouble starting it, even after replacing the ignition system, wiring, and battery. Perhaps they used starting fluid. I should have asked. They said they did nothing with the carburetor. Started right up after the sale, I drove it home, and it ran flawlessly. They said it sat for about 6 years before they got it running for the sale. It was overhauled professionally in 1985, and has 200 hours since the overhaul. Appears to have been under cover for its entire life. My thoughts are, it probably needs a carb overhaul. They said they used Seafoam to loosen thing up, but this was all they did to the fuel system. Do you think it needs a carb rebuild kit? Is this a difficult project requiring some expertise? Also need to know where to go in the forum to get the basics, such as type of motor oil and anti freeze to use. I am in NE Ohio, so it can get darn cold. Planning on getting a blade to remove snow. Any advice as to type of blade. Am sure I will have more questions tomorrow,. Thanks for the enthusiastic help.

 

[HFJ]

one of the most valuable things i've learned here is how not to choke an N. push the starter button, let it turn over 2 or 3 times, then goose the choke - pull it out [i:27284b8242]briefly[/i:27284b8242], and let it go. more choke than that and u stand a real good chance of flooding it - which is what i was doing.

 

[HFJ]

as for where to go on the forum, you're here, on the N board. start a new thread on this board if u want, or ask here in this thread

i run straight 30W in mine, but there are many answers to that question. a 50/50 mix of normal antifreeze and water is a much more agreed upon thing.

 

[Buckeyemac]

Thanks, will try tomorrow

 

[Buckeyemac]

Thanks Pappy

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 22:46:11 11/01/16)
as for where to go on the forum, you're here, on the N board. start a new thread on this board if u want, or ask here in this thread

i run straight 30W in mine, but there are many answers to that question. a 50/50 mix of normal antifreeze and water is a much more agreed upon thing.

Amen to that! This is the spot.

Buckeye, I'm in central Michigan (HFJ is close to me) I run
a different oil than he does but I agree on the antifreeze.

I also rebuild carbs for many of the forum members here.
Since you said "it ran flawlessly" on the way home, I doubt
that is your current problem unless the SeaFoam broke some
crud loose and plugged your carb up with it.

Even if that is the case, just a "kit" doesn't cut it.
It would need to be thoroughly cleaned before the kit is put in.
Each passage needs to be cleaned and verified open.
That said, if you can clean, you can do it.
And I'd be willing to help you do it yourself if you want to.

As for the blade, if you can find a front mounted blade that
is the way to go. Plowing in reverse and looking over your
shoulder all the time gets old in a hurry!

Some pics, the carb off one of my Jubilees before and after.
Then a couple of my snowplow setups on N series.

 

[Buckeyemac]

Thanks Royce. Will keep you in mind if I do need rebuild.

 

[Bruce (VA)]

" Never saw how they started the motor. "

Check the gas in the tank, then turn the gas on.

Turn the key on.

Press the starter button; let it spin 2-3 seconds, then pull the choke out.

" Also need to know where to go in the forum to get the basics,"

Start with tip # 39 at the link; get the manuals!

" such as type of motor oil"

See tip # 6.

While many of the 75 Tips are specific to 2/9/8N's, many are not. Read through them & ask questions.

Speaking of questions....always preface your questions w/ the fact that you are asking about a 6 volt, positive ground Jubilee. And do not be embarrassed by pointing out your unfamiliarity w/ tractor mechanics. None of us were born w/ that knowledge.

" Any advice as to type of blade."

6 foot is about as big as you want. And you will need fluid it he tires. Wheel weights would be helpful as well.
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