Charllie in MO
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What do you all think is currently the best battery drill. I need a new one and have always used Dewalt but time changes things. Thank you, Charlie
Steve@Advance
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I don't know if they are best or not, but been using Ryobi for about 10 years now. I've had satisfactory service from them, but my reason for staying with them is the batteries are interchangeable between all the different tools I have. Hope they don't change, I've got quite a collection!
blue water massey
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Never had any luck with Dewalt tools lasting very long.
I have almost always bought Makita's and still have everyone I ever bought and still going strong.
9.6 v drill was my first bought back in the 80's and still going.
moved up to a 14 v two speed in 2000 its still going.
Got an 18 volt lithium impact and drill combo have killed 2 batteries so far but that little impact driver has done more than everything I've owned before combined.
I got it to replace my 6 month old Dewalt that burned out 4 batteries and a charger in that time
and I hardley used that Dewalt.
A yr after I got the Makita impact I worked with a guy for 3 months building decks and 4-5000 #8 3 1/2 deck screws a day was normal, it is still going and he replaced at least 2 Dewalts in that time.
He now uses Makitas.
I've even run mine under water doing docks.
I have the sawsall and the shop radio to comliment the set and I'm adding the circular saw to it this yr
The sawsall is hard on the batteries and only lasts about 4 mins to a charge so only gets used in areas where an extetion corded tool is not practical.
Which for me is a lot.
I have also had a ridgid 18 v drill that was given too me. it was very good as well, lasted me about 2 yrs of abuse as I was trying to kill it and it still works but needs brushes.
Dewalt was bought ou by Black n Decker I think.
But who ever it was my opion is they made them cheaper and still expect premium price.
Thats my 5 cents worth as Can done away with the penny had to raise it from 2 cents worth.
I have almost always bought Makita's and still have everyone I ever bought and still going strong.
9.6 v drill was my first bought back in the 80's and still going.
moved up to a 14 v two speed in 2000 its still going.
Got an 18 volt lithium impact and drill combo have killed 2 batteries so far but that little impact driver has done more than everything I've owned before combined.
I got it to replace my 6 month old Dewalt that burned out 4 batteries and a charger in that time
and I hardley used that Dewalt.
A yr after I got the Makita impact I worked with a guy for 3 months building decks and 4-5000 #8 3 1/2 deck screws a day was normal, it is still going and he replaced at least 2 Dewalts in that time.
He now uses Makitas.
I've even run mine under water doing docks.
I have the sawsall and the shop radio to comliment the set and I'm adding the circular saw to it this yr
The sawsall is hard on the batteries and only lasts about 4 mins to a charge so only gets used in areas where an extetion corded tool is not practical.
Which for me is a lot.
I have also had a ridgid 18 v drill that was given too me. it was very good as well, lasted me about 2 yrs of abuse as I was trying to kill it and it still works but needs brushes.
Dewalt was bought ou by Black n Decker I think.
But who ever it was my opion is they made them cheaper and still expect premium price.
Thats my 5 cents worth as Can done away with the penny had to raise it from 2 cents worth.
blue water massey
Well-known Member
well I'm on the map any time ya want a in person demonstration drop by and I'll be glad to show ya
blue water massey
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blue water massey- Why does he have posted at the top left of the video...."Do not attempt"?
In the comments on the video a question arose about what 'mods' he may have done on the drill to be able to do this.
I don't know.
If the video is real and a non-modified drill did do this....I am impressed and stand corrected about what you posted.
In the comments on the video a question arose about what 'mods' he may have done on the drill to be able to do this.
I don't know.
If the video is real and a non-modified drill did do this....I am impressed and stand corrected about what you posted.
Chuck (CA)
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I like my Makita 18v. Had it around 5 years and still on the original battery; likewise on it's drill brother.
blue water massey
Well-known Member
here's a better one at least this guy isn't as questionable
sorry I haven't found one of a Makita
but have for Hitati Bosch and also Ridgid
panasonc used under water
sorry I haven't found one of a Makita
but have for Hitati Bosch and also Ridgid
panasonc used under water
blue water massey- Here are my reasons for questioning this....
1. The drill should be water-tight to keep the brushes from 'shorting' out.
2. The drill should be water-tight to keep the 'finger' switch from shorting.
3. The drill should be water-tight to keep the battery from shorting.
4. The drill should be water-tight to keep the gears dry and prevent decay over time.
It just does not make sense to me.
1. The drill should be water-tight to keep the brushes from 'shorting' out.
2. The drill should be water-tight to keep the 'finger' switch from shorting.
3. The drill should be water-tight to keep the battery from shorting.
4. The drill should be water-tight to keep the gears dry and prevent decay over time.
It just does not make sense to me.
blue water massey
Well-known Member
I don't understand him either
but basicly what he was doing by driving a screw into the board in the water is something I have had to do
the guy who's place I was working at said he would buy me a new one if I buggered mine up
that was almost 3 yrs ago and it's still going
I've done about 50+ screws and a couple lag bolts now
it's sort of a last resort thing but it can be done
I took the air hose to it and sprayed WD 40 as soon as I could afterwards
was using it yesterday so it's still going almost 3yrs later
but basicly what he was doing by driving a screw into the board in the water is something I have had to do
the guy who's place I was working at said he would buy me a new one if I buggered mine up
that was almost 3 yrs ago and it's still going
I've done about 50+ screws and a couple lag bolts now
it's sort of a last resort thing but it can be done
I took the air hose to it and sprayed WD 40 as soon as I could afterwards
was using it yesterday so it's still going almost 3yrs later
blue water massey
Well-known Member
sometimes ya just have to get the job done.
and I'm very parsimonious when it comes to my tools.
for me I want the best value for my dollar.
would I recommend using them under water?
NO I wouldn't!
but like I said there are times that you just have to get the job done.
As I do a lot of repair work for a camp ground with 3 lakes I do a lot of work in and around the water
some things need repairs fast due to liability reasons
as to your other questions
1. The drill should be water-tight to keep the brushes from 'shorting' out.
Makita's are brushless
2. The drill should be water-tight to keep the 'finger' switch from shorting.
don't know but the switch on mine seam fairly sealed might not be water tight more dust n water resistant
3. The drill should be water-tight to keep the battery from shorting.
pure water won't conduct electricity it's the impurities in it that does that so might not have enough to short it out
4. The drill should be water-tight to keep the gears dry and prevent decay over time.
any drill I've ever taken apart has lithium grease and seals on the shafts so they are at least water resistant
and I'm very parsimonious when it comes to my tools.
for me I want the best value for my dollar.
would I recommend using them under water?
NO I wouldn't!
but like I said there are times that you just have to get the job done.
As I do a lot of repair work for a camp ground with 3 lakes I do a lot of work in and around the water
some things need repairs fast due to liability reasons
as to your other questions
1. The drill should be water-tight to keep the brushes from 'shorting' out.
Makita's are brushless
2. The drill should be water-tight to keep the 'finger' switch from shorting.
don't know but the switch on mine seam fairly sealed might not be water tight more dust n water resistant
3. The drill should be water-tight to keep the battery from shorting.
pure water won't conduct electricity it's the impurities in it that does that so might not have enough to short it out
4. The drill should be water-tight to keep the gears dry and prevent decay over time.
any drill I've ever taken apart has lithium grease and seals on the shafts so they are at least water resistant
blue water massey- "pure water won't conduct electricity it's the impurities in it that does that so might not have enough to short it out"
How are you working in 'pure'(de-Ionized) water if it is some lakes at a camp ground?
Anyway, all I can say is WOW. If you are happy then....go for it.
How are you working in 'pure'(de-Ionized) water if it is some lakes at a camp ground?
Anyway, all I can say is WOW. If you are happy then....go for it.
Lake or river water is probably pure enough that it's not going to conduct well enough to cause enough current leakage to affect a motor. When I'm working around docks (always above water thankfully) it's saltwater. Hate to think what it would take to protect a cordless drill against that. I was talking to a diver that services boats though, and he said that unlike freshwater, if there's a hot conductor in the saltwater, it doesn't pose nearly the hazard in saltwater because the saltwater conducts better than a human.
big fred- You are correct about sea water being more 'conductive than humans....
"Interestingly, if the water contains very large amounts of solutes and ions, then the water becomes such an efficient conductor of electricity that an electrical current may essentially ignore a human body in the water and stick to the better pathway to conduct itself?the masses of ions in the water. That is why the danger of electrocution in sea water is less than it would be in bath water."
But here is the quote about water in streams(which feed lakes)....
"Lucky for us hydrologists here at the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), water flowing in streams contains extensive amounts of dissolved salts.".
HTH
USGS
"Interestingly, if the water contains very large amounts of solutes and ions, then the water becomes such an efficient conductor of electricity that an electrical current may essentially ignore a human body in the water and stick to the better pathway to conduct itself?the masses of ions in the water. That is why the danger of electrocution in sea water is less than it would be in bath water."
But here is the quote about water in streams(which feed lakes)....
"Lucky for us hydrologists here at the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), water flowing in streams contains extensive amounts of dissolved salts.".
HTH
USGS
Bryan inIowa
Member
Id say Milwaukee M18 fuel . Lot of guys are using them on ice fishing augers these days . They drill lot more holes than any other brand . Turning 6,7or 8 inch augers thru up to 30 inches of ice . I heard that they are coming out with a 9a battery this year .
Charllie in MO
Member
Lol, that was a lot more than a nickels worth, thank you.
Charllie in MO
Member
Wow that is impressive.
Charllie in MO
Member
Just for fun...no
Charllie in MO
Member
I have some Makita grinders, always been good.
Charllie in MO
Member
I'll give them a look, thank you.
Charllie in MO
Member
Pricey can sometimes be cheaper, thank you.
Charllie in MO
Member
Always heard Ryobi was good, thanks.
Charllie in MO
Member
Wish we had one here.
Charllie in MO
Member
My only problem with Dewalt has been the battery life, thank you.
M-MAN
Well-known Member
- Location
- Bostic, NC
I bought the Milwaukee fuel with 5 ah batteries a few month's ago. So far so good and the larger batteries make a big difference in run time. They are pricy but this is my third strike (and last attempt to find good ones) with cordless drill's.
My son has the Ridgid from Home Depo and loves it. Lifetime warranty with his.
My son has the Ridgid from Home Depo and loves it. Lifetime warranty with his.
Charllie in MO
Member
Thanks I'll check that out.
Charllie in MO
Member
Kinda where I'm leaning, thank you
M-MAN
Well-known Member
- Location
- Bostic, NC
Yes it's a Li Ion.
Charllie in MO
Member
XRP is what I have now, drill is OK, batteries are terrible.
Green Horn
New User
I have been buying Menard Work Force Brand made in China but what isn't. They work well and cost is not bad when on sale
Geo-TH,In
Well-known Member
In 2009 I bought 2 dewalt Li-ion and a charger, $200. Dewalt's charger works on Ni-Mh batteries, but I've never seen one on the market. So I went to ebay and bought Ni-Mh batteries for my dewalt. About $40 each now. Nothing lasts forever, but you can get two for the price of an XRP and about 3 for the price of a Li-ion. I'll never go back to the XRP. But I love dewalt tools, just not their battery. One of dewalt's li-ion battery is still good, the other died after 3 years. One cell opened up.
I've always been a fan of Makita, but ... I'm thinking of changing brands for my next drill purchase.
Current one had a battery die after 2 years. The remaining battery keeps giving me "error" lights on the charger, though it does continue to charge.
I don't like the position of its "headlight" either - all it does is projects a dark shadow on whatever you're drilling!
Milwaukee has my attention right now once I'm ready to buy.
Current one had a battery die after 2 years. The remaining battery keeps giving me "error" lights on the charger, though it does continue to charge.
I don't like the position of its "headlight" either - all it does is projects a dark shadow on whatever you're drilling!
Milwaukee has my attention right now once I'm ready to buy.
Aaron Ford
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If it'll help, I can show how I clean my r/c car motors. I hook em up to a battery and submerge them into a cup of water. They run fine and the crud floats to the top. Then I relube the bearings. You'd be amazed how much dirt and carbon comes out. My old Traxxas Emaxx had twin 550's that had to be cleaned often. My new toy has a brushless motor. Less motor maintenance but it goes through other parts much faster due to speed, power, bad decisions, etc...
Aaron
Aaron
RobCons
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- Location
- Central Alabama
I like the Porter Cable brand. I have had Dewalt and could not afford to keep replacing the batteries. A Sears Craftman set lasted several years. Porter Cable does what I need and last as long as any seem to. I use mine about every day.
Charllie in MO
Member
Thank you. I ended up buying a Rigid, price was OK and if you bought
it at Home Depot you got a free lifetime warranty on parts and
service, even the batteries.
it at Home Depot you got a free lifetime warranty on parts and
service, even the batteries.
Charllie in MO
Member
Check out the Ridgids at Home Depot and see what you think.
sammydwm
Member
Several places I have worked at switched to cordless tools.
One ran DeWalt drills and they were pretty bullet proof. They saw a lot of work in some pretty rough conditions (not under water though) and they held up quite well.
One place used Craftsman and their batteries were always crapped out. But these were the older NiCad ones.
Have always been a fan of Bosch. Good tough tools and good batteries back in the NiCad day. Haven't run any with the Lithium ion ones but wouldn't expect the quality to be bad at all.
Fell into a deal on a Milwaukee Fuel impact and that's what I will be going to in the near future with all my cordless tools. Have a few at my current job and they are a good solid tool.
One ran DeWalt drills and they were pretty bullet proof. They saw a lot of work in some pretty rough conditions (not under water though) and they held up quite well.
One place used Craftsman and their batteries were always crapped out. But these were the older NiCad ones.
Have always been a fan of Bosch. Good tough tools and good batteries back in the NiCad day. Haven't run any with the Lithium ion ones but wouldn't expect the quality to be bad at all.
Fell into a deal on a Milwaukee Fuel impact and that's what I will be going to in the near future with all my cordless tools. Have a few at my current job and they are a good solid tool.
Charllie in MO
Member
Milwaukee has an interesting 3/8"
cordless ratchet.
cordless ratchet.
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